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Old 04-19-2016, 09:49 AM   #11
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To the OP...before swapping the axle, there might be other issues causing abnormal tire wear like axle misalignment, suspension component wear, bearing issues, air pressure not at max, or maybe just old tires starting to weaken on the sidewall (check mfr date stamped on sidewall).
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:15 AM   #12
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I also agree about consulting an axle expert. You might be spending more time and money than you need to for little gain.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:37 AM   #13
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Are you putting the tongue weight into consideration? Do you have 15% of the total trailer weight on the tongue? That would be 3500 X 15%, which equals 525 pounds. That would put 2975# on the axle when the trailer is fully loaded.

I agree that it's cutting it close, but that's what trailer manufacturers do to increase profits.

Have you had the axle checked to see if it's bent? That's a possibility.

I think axle shops can increase the bend in an axle to change the orientation of the tires to the road (when the trailer is loaded) so they don't wear.

I'd talk to an axle shop before buying a new heavier axle. Could be that a minor adjustment and few hundred bucks could fix your problem.
Thanks JM and Doc, I am taking the TT to an axle place, so before I replace I will have them check the axle, tires, and see what they say...maybe they can adjust.
To Smokerbill: I try to take the tongue weight into account but I don't know what the actual tongue weight is. Spec says 400 lb., So I thought my WDH would transfer some of that to the axle. Have to have the WDH because my 4runner needs it to run level. That's another thing I learned the hard way, the 4runner is not designed for a 400 lb tongue weight.
Thanks everyone for the help! Really appreciate it.
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Old 04-23-2016, 04:25 PM   #14
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Weighed everything in trailer and trailer separate

So I weighed the trailer, 3500 lbs., weighed trailer hitched w/o car weight, 2960. Weighed everything I have in the trailer 220 lbs. battery 46 lb. sticker says 3046 w full p ropane tanks. So conservatively I am missing 200 lbs of weight. Beginning to wonder if trailer as I bought it, unloaded weighs more than the sticker says. So I am running at limits of trailer and axle even though my stuff doesn't weigh enough to do that! E Ben if the sticker weight doesn't include the AC, that is only 100 lbs.
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I had concerns as well about the ccc so I called my sales rep . Unfortunatly it was way to expensive to upgrade to theX19H, his suggestion was to upgrade to a 4500 lb axcel . He said the frame on the x17z is identical to the x19H so it should be no problem carrying the extra weight.
Before I do that I will check with an expert to make sure that's the right choice to make, not that I don't trust a salesman that sold me a trailer that can't carry anything.
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:41 AM   #16
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I had concerns as well about the ccc so I called my sales rep . Unfortunatly it was way to expensive to upgrade to theX19H, his suggestion was to upgrade to a 4500 lb axcel . He said the frame on the x17z is identical to the x19H so it should be no problem carrying the extra weight.
Before I do that I will check with an expert to make sure that's the right choice to make, not that I don't trust a salesman that sold me a trailer that can't carry anything.
My axle guy says they come in standard increments like 3500 next then next is 6000 ish. I'm upgrading to 3500 of in a month for about $500-600. The 3500 pound is a simple replacement and I don't have to change tires, lift the trailer, etc. if I wanted to go more than 3500 pds.
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:25 PM   #17
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My axle guy says they come in standard increments like 3500 next then next is 6000 ish. I'm upgrading to 3500 of in a month for about $500-600. The 3500 pound is a simple replacement and I don't have to change tires, lift the trailer, etc. if I wanted to go more than 3500 pds.
Please share results. I emailed jayco to see if it is the same frame as the x19h. Hope it is I'd definitely like to upgrade to 3500lbs
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Please share results. I emailed jayco to see if it is the same frame as the x19h. Hope it is I'd definitely like to upgrade to 3500lbs
It might be a couple of years yet . We just bought our x17z 2 months ago I"ll wait until the warranty expires or when we need new tires and Etc. Then bring it in .
I couldn't justify the costs to switch. to the 19h.
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Please share results. I emailed jayco to see if it is the same frame as the x19h. Hope it is I'd definitely like to upgrade to 3500lbs
Interested to hear Jayco's response to your email, please share when you get an answer back. I went through the CAT scales on my last trip and was exactly at 3000 pounds on the trailer axle fully loaded. Unfortunately I did not get a chance to go back through the CAT scales with my WDH disconnected. I really love this little trailer and it would be pretty sweet to get some more CCC.
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:04 PM   #20
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Please share results. I emailed jayco to see if it is the same frame as the x19h. Hope it is I'd definitely like to upgrade to 3500lbs
Find it hard to believe it is the same frame. the 17 and 19 are different lengths, different number of axles, and different lines (at least in 2011, the 17 was a Feather Sport and the 19 was Feather Select).

We bought the 19H specifically because of CCC capacity. Our 1007 bent an axle because of the low CCC and one really good road bump (actually threw my bikes out of the carrier). We always ran the pup at the limit, and I can't really blame Jayco. We all want bigger trailers that tow with smaller vehicles. To keep the GTW down, the axles are often kept small, and the frames light weight.

This really struck home for me when I was looking for our 19H Hybrid. I hit my favorite local dealer (non-Jayco) and they had only one tiny hybrid trailer that our Traverse could tow. Why? Bullet proof frames and axles, and reasonable CCC's. Jayco makes a line of really nice lightweight TT's, but light weight comes with trade offs.

With all that said, by all means get the heavier axle. The added weight of the axle will not affect the frame capacity, and if you still keep the cargo reasonable you should be golden. Note: don't know the 17 very well, but my 19H doesn't actually have an axle that you can swap out. it has the Tor-Flex suspension, which is more integrate into the frame. No leaf springs and blocks like a normal TT.
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