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Old 05-06-2015, 02:43 PM   #1
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We just got back from our first trip with our Jayco X17A, it was a leftover 2014 that we bought new. When I went to check the tire pressure I noticed that the tires are cracked! A guy at one of the campgrounds told me not to drive fast on the way home (700 miles). The dealer is going to talk to me about the problem, but I was just wondering if anyone else has had a tire problem with a new unit. They have to be the tires that were put on at the factory. I do keep them covered when they are here at home.

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While the TT was made in 2014 (or late 2013 perhaps) the tires may actually be older (search internet for Date code identification)


Trailer tires are said to only have a 5 year lifespan, and the longer and more they sit without constant movement, the more that the oils in the rubbers shift and cause deterioration and the cracking begins.


When in storage, the ground surface (dirt and rock) can also leach the oils from the tires, worsening the problem. You will see postings about parking with tires up on plywood or wooden blocks for this reason.


Covering tires as you do, IMO, also prevents UV damage to the tires.


Being a 2014 TT - I would check into the tire warranty that came with them to see what type of refund or replacement you are entitled too.


I would drive cautiously - remember almost ALL Trailer tires have a 60-65 MPH maximum rating - Check the air pressure as this is the number one cause of tire damage on the road.


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We just got back from our first trip with our Jayco X17A, it was a leftover 2014 that we bought new. When I went to check the tire pressure I noticed that the tires are cracked! A guy at one of the campgrounds told me not to drive fast on the way home (700 miles). The dealer is going to talk to me about the problem, but I was just wondering if anyone else has had a tire problem with a new unit. They have to be the tires that were put on at the factory. I do keep them covered when they are here at home.

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If I were you, I'd find a nearby Jayco dealer, or nation-wide tire chain, and have them call your dealer to arrange replacing the cracked tires before you head back. If there are tires without cracks that aren't being replaced, they should check the date code to see how old your tires are.

Trailer tires on new units in general don't have a good safety record. Trailer tires with CRACKS are an accident waiting to happen, IMO.
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How bad are the cracks? Can you slip the edge of a piece of paper in them? If the cracks are hairline then they are likely fine to use. If they are to that point though where you can get a piece of paper in them, you need to be careful. But yes, the dealer should be replacing them.

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Trailer tires on new units in general don't have a good safety record.
Didn't we just have a thread on this subject? Can you show us some documentation on this?
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If you do replace the tires, save the old ones to prove your claim!

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We had 2 failures in less than 100 mi and a 3rd failure was imminent. It's a '13 model and always covered while stored, pressure always correct and monitored with a TPMS, had no cracks and had about 7500mi. They were TowMax brand.
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Tire cracks are normal, that is depending on the depth of the crack and most often are cosmetic. Usually are more common if exposed to sunlight, heat, etc.

If the cracks are deep, they can be problematic, but cosmetic cracks are not indicators of tire failure.

Read this link, it is credible as it comes from Tire Rack.com

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=30
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Dont want to hijack the thread but the picture that redhorse posted , did the TPMS let you know as soon as the tire blew ?and how soon did you stop ?
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Dont want to hijack the thread but the picture that redhorse posted , did the TPMS let you know as soon as the tire blew ?and how soon did you stop ?
Hey Clay! We heard what sounded like a backfire. About a second later the monitor started making its noise. About a third of the tread departed as a single piece. I credit the monitor with preventing any damage to the wheel or wheel well. The second failure was a little less dramatic and was alerted as a low pressure, I got stopped before the tire started going to pieces which would have happened shortly. I feel the monitor earned its keep that day. Btw, our monitor is a Minder Research brand. I felt better having it before, now I'm a solid fan.
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Thanks , I will have one before my trip out west next year !
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Thanks , I will have one before my trip out west next year !
There are several brands that are popular. My advise is to shop and pick the one you like. Each to his own.
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While the TT was made in 2014 (or late 2013 perhaps) the tires may actually be older (search internet for Date code identification)


Trailer tires are said to only have a 5 year lifespan, and the longer and more they sit without constant movement, the more that the oils in the rubbers shift and cause deterioration and the cracking begins.


When in storage, the ground surface (dirt and rock) can also leach the oils from the tires, worsening the problem. You will see postings about parking with tires up on plywood or wooden blocks for this reason.


Covering tires as you do, IMO, also prevents UV damage to the tires.


Being a 2014 TT - I would check into the tire warranty that came with them to see what type of refund or replacement you are entitled too.


I would drive cautiously - remember almost ALL Trailer tires have a 60-65 MPH maximum rating - Check the air pressure as this is the number one cause of tire damage on the road.


Good luck

Good advice and exactly what I would have recommended. I would bet your tires are probably about 5 years old and have spent most of that time sitting, not rolling. That combination can leave you alongside the road.

I'd insist that my dealer replace all four tires AND the spare. You bought a new trailer and deserve new tires beneath it.

And remember - when one tire goes, the other three are then overloaded.
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Tires replaced

Just wanted to tell everyone that we took the trailer back to the dealer, Fretz in Souderton, Pa and they called Jayco to get a warranty approval. They approved it and we have brand new tires. The service people were actually a little upset that the tires had gotten past the delivery inspection. So, we have 2 new tires and we are thankful to Jayco.

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Just wanted to tell everyone that we took the trailer back to the dealer, Fretz in Souderton, Pa and they called Jayco to get a warranty approval. They approved it and we have brand new tires. The service people were actually a little upset that the tires had gotten past the delivery inspection. So, we have 2 new tires and we are thankful to Jayco.

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That's an excellent outcome! Once again Jayco steps up. I expect your new ones are also ST, so keep your eyes on them.
Thanks for the follow up.
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5 years is a bit long on an ST tire IMHO. RV tires get specified at close to max rating for the work required. The tire needs to be in good shape all it's working life. Tires derate with time. So at what point are your tires no longer rated for the load? You don't know and neither do I.
UV is only one enemy of tires, Ozone is another and you can't do anything about, it's just the way it is.
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Just wanted to tell everyone that we took the trailer back to the dealer, Fretz in Souderton, Pa and they called Jayco to get a warranty approval. They approved it and we have brand new tires. The service people were actually a little upset that the tires had gotten past the delivery inspection. So, we have 2 new tires and we are thankful to Jayco.

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We got ours there, too. Good to know they're doing the right thing.
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Just wanted to tell everyone that we took the trailer back to the dealer, Fretz in Souderton, Pa and they called Jayco to get a warranty approval. They approved it and we have brand new tires. The service people were actually a little upset that the tires had gotten past the delivery inspection. So, we have 2 new tires and we are thankful to Jayco.

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Now that's a GREAT dealer!!!
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