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Old 11-03-2015, 08:56 PM   #1
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Repairing blown tire damage

I wish I had thought to take pictures. I helped a friend today repair the typical blown tire damage damage to a newer 5th wheel. Dealer estimate was $1500 for the J skirt and fiberglass fender and a day to repair. Estimating dealer screwed around getting parts ordered so he got the parts from an out of state dealer. Parts were ordered through Jayco (Valley RV Supercenter Jayco Dealer | New and Used RVs Kent, Seattle, Tacoma, Washington great to work with), two J panels, fender, fender support bracket, etc. Price $200 but shipping to the house was $200 total $400. Maybe 3 weeks and parts were in my shop.

We started disassembling the damaged metal, all screws and couple staples. Flattened old metal to make a template for length and wheel radius. Taped new metal to prevent scratching and marked with the new "template." I used a metal cutting wheel to cut the metal and filed burrs. The top edge of the J metal slips under the trim strip the runs horizontal to the ground, be careful in disassemble for reuse. Slipped metal into the trim and under the rear corner trim, held metal in place and drilled new holes as required replacing staples with screws. Held new fiberglass fender in place drilled holes, attach over the J skirt, and caulked. Wiped and waxed looks like new.

About 4 hours not knowing how it was assembled. The hardest part was cutting the radius but the cut is not tolerance critical as most of the cut is covered by the new fender. Really simple repair with basic tools.
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Old 11-03-2015, 09:12 PM   #2
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Always feels good to save a buck. Valley RV is where I bought my rig. So so purchase experience.

I don't have any experience with their service dept. as I've always bought parts on line or had other mods (slide toppers and water heater replacement) done elsewhere. I'll keep that in mind next time I need some servicing or parts.
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Old 11-04-2015, 03:43 PM   #3
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Tires and tire damage are covered by the 2 year Jayco warranty- if you still have it. I just got my trailer repaired and was so glad I contacted Jayco first. I had already replaced the blown tire while on vacation, but Jayco would have replaced it too. My dealer did not know Jayco covered this and I had to send a couple emails with info to Jayco. Relatively easy process.
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Old 11-04-2015, 06:15 PM   #4
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I would've done what Edd505 did. It's cheaper for me to get parts, fix it in my shop, at my pace, and be on my way back to camping WAY quicker. Plus, it's fixed my way, every time. Nothing really that complicated about most parts of an RV, if you take the time to study up on one. Warranty or not, it's cheaper to do it yourself, if you look at it from my perspective. In my case, I save a LOT of fuel, aggravation, and wait time for somebody else to do it. Parts come to me, I fix, I go camping.
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Your package policy should cover the damage..
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Old 11-05-2015, 03:33 PM   #6
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Your package policy should cover the damage..
Not sure what a package policy is. The trailer insurance paid $990 of the dealer estimate, we fixed it for $400 and banked the rest. $500 deductible plus the $990 was 1400+tax if the dealer did it. Doing it ourselves we had an $1100 savings. I checked the tires and they are all 2013 but the Jayco warranty is up. I agree it should have been warranty but try and get a TowMax dealer to step-up.

Like BigJohnD says less aggravation. He fully intended to have the dealer do the work, got the estimate, had the dealer and insurance talking together. He was told a month for parts and a day to fix. He offered a down payment for parts at the time of the estimate and was told that was not necessary. He leaves telling them setup an appointment for repair when the parts are in and he will bring in. He thinks we are waiting on parts and a date for a repair. About a month later he gets and email - we need $$ to order the parts, company policy! Now we lost a month and are beyond PO'd at the dealer.
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Everyone's situation is different. If people don't have the skills or know how to do the repair, the dealer (repair shop) is the ONLY route. Other folks may have the skills and know how but prefer to bring a warrantied issue to the dealer. Especially if the dealer is close by. Others will always opt to do their own repairs, even when under warranty.
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I'm like BigJohnD fix everything myself no matter what. What I have no experience with I learn from the Web information. Like to have things done right in the first place. If I have to cut a hole in something I would make it so things will fit. If you see the holes cut during manufacturing.....wow! Through some off them a grizzly can come through. I think anyone can learn skills if there is a will to do so.
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I can't believe someone isn't offering wheel well protection add ons for just this reason. It would seem to me that some type of owner installed material stronger than particle board would sell a few sets.
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I can't believe someone isn't offering wheel well protection add ons for just this reason. It would seem to me that some type of owner installed material stronger than particle board would sell a few sets.
Once my warranty is up in March, I am going to do just that. You can buy trailer fenders from Shoppers or Tractor Supply. I am going to just cut them up and mount them up above as best I can.
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I can't believe someone isn't offering wheel well protection add ons for just this reason. It would seem to me that some type of owner installed material stronger than particle board would sell a few sets.
I've seen several TT's with wheel well damage (my neighbor's was one of them).
Something that would protect the well would have to be TOUGH. When the tire starts coming apart the steel cables are like flails. Just a rough estimate but think of a dozen or so of these on a wheel turning something like 600 RPM.
Maybe 1/4" steel plate?
I had no damage from my 2 tire failures (other than 2 dead tires) due to my tire pressure monitor.
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I'd think that adding something would be better than the extreme flogging that the flimsy particle board flooring could withstand. Even if it was like a motorcycle helmet where you bang it good once and replace. Would still be cheaper than the damage to the unprotected wheel well.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:56 PM   #13
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Mine has Aluminum panels at the bottom. I watched a guy fix his press board siding last summer with a teen son in camp. He had the pieces precut unscrewed and rescrewed the panels, taped, rattle can painted the bottom all the way around the 5th wheel. Looked good when they left.

Cosmik Debris you got me thinking ....... a bolt on protector ...........
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I agree a protector form blown tires in the wheel wells would save a lot of heart ache and money. When a tire blew on a fifth wheel I had it took out the fender, side paneling, black water tank, plumbing, and bottom cover material. $3800 repair.
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From all the reading I have been doing on a lot of different RV forums websites, The Tire Pressure Monitors like Tire Minder and TST have saves a lot of people from having severe blown tire damage to the RV. It warns you of tire pressure going down and you can get pulled over right away.
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I am a strong advocate of TPMS on any rv. There are best, better or good ones depending on your preferences. IMO it is the best thing I ever did to enhance my towing experience.

That said, it is not the end all to tire problems. If you hit a sharp object on the road and have a catastrophic tire failure, The TPMS system will know about it almost the same time you do if you have eyes and ears.

I have a buddy that has one on his rv and lost a tire and rim on the interstate. A passing motorist told him about it as the TSPS system did not alarm at all.

I have had a similar thing happen to me and I got the alarm at the same time as the blowout. Other times I have been alerted to low pressure and high pressure conditions and was able to safely stop and correct the problem with no damage.
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I check tires regularly and the day I lost this tire I had checked pressure a couple hours before with 0 low tires and visual inspected as part of "I'm moving the trailer." I drove south on I25 about 30 miles ... I did not see any thing in the road but 65mph or just under the tire blew with no warning. Not sure TPMS would have changed a thing.
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My first failure was catastrophic. The tire threw 2/3 of its tread in one piece. The TM lit up with a "Blowout" message. I heard "something" but I would have spent some "seconds" figuring out what. The message prompted me to look closely in the rear view and could see the tread flopping in the roadway behind me. Got to the shoulder before the flailing tire could damage the 5th.
For me a TPMS is required equipment.
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