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Old 04-05-2016, 04:24 PM   #11
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Like so many other items we have discussed on this forum, Jayco and their employees could certainly build the ultimate RV. Perfect in every way, with nothing but the best craftsmanship and material. Sadly not a single person on this forum (ok maybe one or two) would ever purchase that unit at the price it would cost. They make a good product at a fair price with the knowledge that most of their units will be used for a few weeks or a month a year. I have made the mistake of over improving several homes. I built and did things I wanted, and to my satisfaction. The cost of which I could never get paid for.

In my shop we made all wood cabinets and we made cabinets using furniture board and vinyl interiors. The vinyl outsold the all wood (which was only about 15% more) 6 or 7 to one. On the outside they all looked alike. I would get asked if the all wood would hold up better, I could not honestly say they would. I saw cabinets I did ruined in a year and the next house 15 years later looked like new. Had little to do with the construction of the cabinet, had everything to do with the use and maintenance of the unit. Same with RV's.

If Jayco put the best tires, best axels, best brakes, best cabinets, best fans, and lighting and TV's and beds, best materials for floor, and roofs and side walls, all the little "I wish" items... none of us would purchase them.

There are plenty of high end coach builders if money is no issue. You can get exactly what you want and how you want it. When your buying a cost efficient mass produced product, something has to give. You can get quality, or craftsmanship or low cost, but you can't get all of them. JMHO.

I am a happy Jayco owner... besides, if they did everything I would have nothing to "mod" and would just continue to drive the DW even crazier.
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snip... You can get quality, or craftsmanship or low cost, but you can't get all of them. JMHO.

I am a happy Jayco owner. ...snip
IIRC, years ago the quote I saw was that you can have
quality, cheap, or fast... pick two.

I am a happy Jayco owner, too.
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Determine the number and types of cabinets in your 5er or travel trailer.
Now take those numbers and types to a cabinet maker and ask him to price out what it will cost you.

Now you know why Jayco builds cabinets like they do.
I have no major complaints with my Jayco cabinets or my travel trailer.
I got what I paid for, and am happy with my purchase.
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Determine the number and types of cabinets in your 5er or travel trailer.
Now take those numbers and types to a cabinet maker and ask him to price out what it will cost you.

Now you know why Jayco builds cabinets like they do.
I have no major complaints with my Jayco cabinets or my travel trailer.
I got what I paid for, and am happy with my purchase.
AND they have the constraint that everything needs to be as light as possible, and that it all needs to survive the "moving earthquake" of towing. I'm pretty amazed at the overall value and overall success, given all the complexities involved.
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Like so many other items we have discussed on this forum, Jayco and their employees could certainly build the ultimate RV. Perfect in every way, with nothing but the best craftsmanship and material. Sadly not a single person on this forum (ok maybe one or two) would ever purchase that unit at the price it would cost. They make a good product at a fair price with the knowledge that most of their units will be used for a few weeks or a month a year. I have made the mistake of over improving several homes. I built and did things I wanted, and to my satisfaction. The cost of which I could never get paid for.

In my shop we made all wood cabinets and we made cabinets using furniture board and vinyl interiors. The vinyl outsold the all wood (which was only about 15% more) 6 or 7 to one. On the outside they all looked alike. I would get asked if the all wood would hold up better, I could not honestly say they would. I saw cabinets I did ruined in a year and the next house 15 years later looked like new. Had little to do with the construction of the cabinet, had everything to do with the use and maintenance of the unit. Same with RV's.

If Jayco put the best tires, best axels, best brakes, best cabinets, best fans, and lighting and TV's and beds, best materials for floor, and roofs and side walls, all the little "I wish" items... none of us would purchase them.

There are plenty of high end coach builders if money is no issue. You can get exactly what you want and how you want it. When your buying a cost efficient mass produced product, something has to give. You can get quality, or craftsmanship or low cost, but you can't get all of them. JMHO.

I am a happy Jayco owner... besides, if they did everything I would have nothing to "mod" and would just continue to drive the DW even crazier.
Very well said, you get what you pay for. Love my Jayco and the Mods that make it mine.
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I am still working on the "Amish Craftsmanship" cabinets on the 2005 Jay Feather 29Y.
In order to hang a jacket in the front closets you have to fold it first and then hang it. There is still 8" above the top of the closet it is just a poor design. After taking things apart (a million staples) I re-glued the frames again. I salvage all the material and will screw everything together so for whatever reason it is better removable. And what need to be pinned or stapled I will. At least I can hang a jacket the normal way.
The upper cabinets where installed crooked so had to adjust that too. The front window is 3/8" off so that has to come out and re-installed. Lots of projects in this trailer. When I'm done she will last my time (till 100...lol). It has a nice layout and love the light weight of this 31 ft. unit.
I went to two sway bars as the 60 mph. wind plays with this unit very easy. Sway didn't bother with passing semi's.
We love this Jayco after we have taken it for a 8 day trip. The Torflex axles give a smooth ride. And what need to be made perfect so be it and will be done.
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Like so many other items we have discussed on this forum, Jayco and their employees could certainly build the ultimate RV. Perfect in every way, with nothing but the best craftsmanship and material. Sadly not a single person on this forum (ok maybe one or two) would ever purchase that unit at the price it would cost. They make a good product at a fair price with the knowledge that most of their units will be used for a few weeks or a month a year. I have made the mistake of over improving several homes. I built and did things I wanted, and to my satisfaction. The cost of which I could never get paid for.

In my shop we matde all wood cabinets and we made cabinets using furniture board and vinyl interiors. The vinyl outsold the all wood (which was only about 15% more) 6 or 7 to one. On the outside they all looked alike. I would get asked if the all wood would hold up better, I could not honestly say they would. I saw cabinets I did ruined in a year and the next house 15 years later looked like new. Had little to do with the construction of the cabinet, had everything to do with the use and maintenance of the unit. Same with RV's.

If Jayco put the best tires, best axels, best brakes, best cabinets, best fans, and lighting and TV's and beds, best materials for floor, and roofs and side walls, all the little "I wish" items... none of us would purchase them.

There are plenty of high end coach builders if money is no issue. You can get exactly what you want and how you want it. When your buying a cost efficient mass produced product, something has to give. You can get quality, or craftsmanship or low cost, but you can't get all of them. JMHO.

I am a happy Jayco owner... besides, if they did everything I would have nothing to "mod" and would just continue to drive the DW even crazier.
Amen!! The cabinets in our Jayco are not the finest quality money can buy. I didn't pay for that!! But they are doing exactly what they should do. A minor repair from time to time is expected. How many earth quakes can you have before something needs attention?? I am truly amazed that things hold up as well as they do!!!
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Also being in Az I suggest when your RV is stored you place several buckets of water inside the unit. This will help add a small amount of humidity to the unit.
It wasn't stored in AZ, we spent the winter there living in it, now heading back to IL. In USA RC Park in Gallup, NM at this moment.
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Isn't it interesting how often the first (and sometimes last) post is bashing Jayco.....just saying....
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The smallest bit of research before the purchase will prepare you for the reality of RV quality.

Lack of quality construction is an industry issue, not just Jayco.

And please tell me you didn't believe what a salesman told you. I spent many an hour on the internet researching before I even walked into a dealership. Go to YouTube and type in Jayco. There are videos of RV assembly.

An educated buyer knows what he is walking in to and knows what to expect and what to look for.
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