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Old 09-01-2015, 05:04 AM   #1
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What would you do

My wife and I are wanting to buy a 2016 Greyhawk but because of the vibration issue we have put off getting one.

Now my question is this would any of you purchase a Greyhawk knowing of the issue and hope Ford or Jayco would fix the problem correctly when they decide who is responsible for the problem?

My best inner voice tells me not to buy one,I think I should listen, but we are so excited about being retired and traveling we kind of keep looking at each other waiting for one of us to say lets do it.

What concerns me is the problem has been know about for at least 2 months by Ford and Jayco and it is still not fixed.
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My wife and I are wanting to buy a 2016 Greyhawk but because of the vibration issue we have put off getting one.

My best inner voice tells me not to buy one,I think I should listen,
Your last line says it best.

I would suggest that you listen to the person that is going to be paying for or making the payments. After all you will be the one that has to live with your decision.
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Old 09-01-2015, 06:10 AM   #3
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I was in the same boat, but they had a 2015 left that was the same floorplan as the 2016 I was originally excited about. I chose the 2015.

Maybe you can find a 2015 in the floorplan you like at another dealer?
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Your last line says it best.

I would suggest that you listen to the person that is going to be paying for or making the payments. After all you will be the one that has to live with your decision.
Ditto !
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:28 PM   #5
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Save money. Buy a '15. This time of year you might get a smoking deal.
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I would postpone purchase until the problem with the 16's is identified and fixed.
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Forest River has reported that perhaps a fix to the vibration problem may have been found. At least that's what they are saying on their forum and they have a factory rep that participates in the thread.
I'm guessing the same would hold true with Jayco then. Here is the link to the thread.
2016 E-450 Vibration issue - Page 5 - Forest River Forums

I'm in the same boat as you Vagabond. I'm debating between the Greyhawk and the Forester. The vibration problem is common to both but the Greyhawk has the added problem of the tank less hot water heater. They had the chance to ditch it for 2016 and go back to the tried and true tank system but they seem determined to hang on to it.
I think I already would have decided on the Forester because some of the other options. Slide out awnings are standard. I really like the system used for heating the tanks and valves. I live in cold weather which means short camping seasons and something like that could extend my season up to a month.
But I can't get the local Forester dealer to get within $10 grand of the price quoted me from the Jayco dealer.
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A lot has been made out negative regarding the tankless system. Mine works flawlessly. Really - follow the directions to a 'T' and make sure you have a Watts regulator.
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A lot has been made out negative regarding the tankless system. Mine works flawlessly. Really - follow the directions to a 'T' and make sure you have a Watts regulator.
Thank you. Whats a Watts regulator? I think I read here that Jayco went to a different manufacturer for the tank less heaters for 2016. I emailed them asking about this and a few other things last week but have yet to get a response.
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A Watts water regulator is one that regulates PRESSURE but not FLOW. The tankless system needs adequate flow to function. Lots of folks use the little $20 jobs to regulate their pressure. And that's fine if you don't need a lot of flow. Those cheap regulators are really FLOW regulators that have the unintended benefit of also regulating pressure.

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Grab the Watts New Lead Free Adjustable 263A-LF Regulator. Set it to 50/55 psi and forget about it.
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A Watts water regulator is one that regulates PRESSURE but not FLOW. The tankless system needs adequate flow to function. Lots of folks use the little $20 jobs to regulate their pressure. And that's fine if you don't need a lot of flow. Those cheap regulators are really FLOW regulators that have the unintended benefit of also regulating pressure.

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Grab the Watts New Lead Free Adjustable 263A-LF Regulator. Set it to 50/55 psi and forget about it.
Thanks again for the info. So where do you mount/install this thing? Sorry for the probably obvious question but this is new to me.
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Just install it right at the hose bib. Bib --> Watts --> hose --> filter (optional) --> coach.
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UpNorth Thank you, I went to the forest River Forum and yes they are saying Ford announced a fix for the vibration. The fix sounds like the pinion angle was wrong, all that is needed is a wedge between the rear end and the leaf spring, will see.

Problem for me buying a 2015 is the towing capacity, I want 7500 not 5500, I tow a trailer to the Sturgis Rally every year.

Love this Forum so much good info here including water regulators etc.
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A Watts water regulator is one that regulates PRESSURE but not FLOW. The tankless system needs adequate flow to function. Lots of folks use the little $20 jobs to regulate their pressure. And that's fine if you don't need a lot of flow. Those cheap regulators are really FLOW regulators that have the unintended benefit of also regulating pressure.

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Grab the Watts New Lead Free Adjustable 263A-LF Regulator. Set it to 50/55 psi and forget about it.
Not to highjack this thread but, I changed to a Watts Lead free adjustable pressure regulator this season and what a difference over the high pressure non adjustable units in flow. The link above is the cheapest source I could find and where I purchased mine as well.
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UpNorth Thank you, I went to the forest River Forum and yes they are saying Ford announced a fix for the vibration. The fix sounds like the pinion angle was wrong, all that is needed is a wedge between the rear end and the leaf spring, will see.

Problem for me buying a 2015 is the towing capacity, I want 7500 not 5500, I tow a trailer to the Sturgis Rally every year.

Love this Forum so much good info here including water regulators etc.
Vagabond, I read somewhere recently and probably here that the Ford E450 chassis has always been capable of towing 7500lbs. Jayco just had to get Ford to change the specs/nomenclature for the camper chassis which they now have done. I think you would be alright towing a trailer with a 2015.
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That was me that Jayco told they could always pull 7500 lbs. The problem with that is if I did pull 7500 with a 2015 sticker of 5500 and had a warranty issue with the Ford chassis on the road the warranty could possibly be denied by Ford for being overloaded.
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Who is to say what you pulled? Not like you're gonna show up to the Ford dealer with your trailer behind you.

Just sayin'.
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:57 AM   #18
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I sure as heck wouldn't leave my trailer with 2 Harley's in it unattended in a parking lot somewhere or along the interstate. It is a 22 foot enclosed trailer.

In my post I did say if i was on the road.
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Have you looked at a leftover 2015? Try an Internet search. Try Whitehorse RV in NJ also. I purchased a new 2015 at substantial savings and it does not have the issues of the 2016.
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Have you looked at a leftover 2015? Try an Internet search. Try Whitehorse RV in NJ also. I purchased a new 2015 at substantial savings and it does not have the issues of the 2016.
That's where I got mine too.
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