2016 28.5RSTS with 2015/16 Ford F150

[Greg107]

I'm big fan of Jayco and owned one in the past.

Looking to purchase a 2016 Eagle HT 28.5RSTS with the Reese Evolution Pin Box. Looks like it will weigh unloaded around 8,700 lbs with a Hitch weight of 1,800 lbs.

I am also looking to purchase a 2015/16 F150 Supercrew 5.5 box with a 3.5L V6 Ecoboost, 3.55 locking electronic axle with Maximum tow package. It says I can pull 11,500 lbs with a maximum payload of 2060lbs.

Can I pull this 5er and not have any issues? Would I need a slider or can I make a 90 degree turn with a standard 16k reese Hitch?

One dealer said the F150 will be fine with a standard hitch since it has the Evolution, One dealer said I need a slider and one dealer said I need to have an F250.

I need some help determine if the F150 will pull the trailer ok and if a slider is needed. I've spent days trying to figure this out. Can't afford an F250

Thanks for the help

Greg

[ALJO]

What is the payload capacity of your F150 I would think that's where your TV would fail? The tow capacity is OK but running in the hills or with heavy head wind you will be disappointed.

[TCNashville]

Originally Posted by Greg107

one dealer said I need to have an F250.

Listen to this guy. I believe you can buy a nicely equipped gas F-250 for less than a maxed out F-150 these days and the towing experience will be night/day better with the 3/4 ton.

[Wrascal]

With a 5.5 foot bed, even a 6.5 foot bed, I would only use a slider.
*I'm not familiar with the Pin Box you mention, so I may be wrong.*

My choice, go with the F250 and an 8 foot bed.

[SouthCo]

Originally Posted by ALJO

What is the payload capacity of your F150 I would think that's where your TV would fail? The tow capacity is OK but running in the hills or with heavy head wind you will be disappointed.

He states payload of 2060 and unloaded pin weight of 1800. He will be over payload for sure..

[SouthCo]

Originally Posted by Greg107

I'm big fan of Jayco and owned one in the past.

Looking to purchase a 2016 Eagle HT 28.5RSTS with the Reese Evolution Pin Box. Looks like it will weigh unloaded around 8,700 lbs with a Hitch weight of 1,800 lbs.

I am also looking to purchase a 2015/16 F150 Supercrew 5.5 box with a 3.5L V6 Ecoboost, 3.55 locking electronic axle with Maximum tow package. It says I can pull 11,500 lbs with a maximum payload of 2060lbs.

Can I pull this 5er and not have any issues? Would I need a slider or can I make a 90 degree turn with a standard 16k reese Hitch?

One dealer said the F150 will be fine with a standard hitch since it has the Evolution, One dealer said I need a slider and one dealer said I need to have an F250.

I need some help determine if the F150 will pull the trailer ok and if a slider is needed. I've spent days trying to figure this out. Can't afford an F250

Thanks for the help

Greg

If you can't afford a proper tow vehicle than you can't afford the trailer. Compromise somewhere. A lighter trailer or a used truck. 3/4 ton gas are very close in price to a 1/2 ton.

[Greg107]

Sounds like the F150 with the 3.5 V6 Ecoboost with Maximum tow is too light on the payload side? This is why I posted on this forum for feedback to make sure I don't make a mistake. I wonder why Jayco and other manufacturers say these lower weight 5er's are 1/2 ton towable

The reason I was going with a F150 was not only cost, but the F250 would not fit in the parking area where my wife works and it would be her daily driver.

[goducks]

Those payloads are fictitious. You need to look at the shipped trucks weight sticker located on the door jamb. The 2060 is usually for a base unit. Once you pick your trim level the 2060 drops.


Don't fall for Fords false marketing.

[TWP723]

The F150 and F250 are comparable in size. My truck has a 156" w/b. A crew cab F150 is 145" w/ a 5.5 ft bed. Height is 6" difference.

[starcraft69]

I have the same 5th wheel and a 2500 HD 6.0 gasser. I have about 3300 miles of tow experience with this set up. I am pretty happy so far and the truck has done well, but would not want a smaller truck or engine. We will be upgrading to a diesel in a year as we plan on crossing the country and more trips to the Rockies.

[Camper_bob]

Originally Posted by TCNASHVILLE

Listen to this guy. I believe you can buy a nicely equipped gas F-250 for less than a maxed out F-150 these days and the towing experience will be night/day better with the 3/4 ton.

+1

By the time you option out that F-150 to handle the 5er (if you even can; word on the street is max tow AND max payload are unicorns), you could get a nicer used F-250 (if you're stuck on Ford) for probably less money, AND not have to worry so much about your numbers.

Added: You were also worried about size. My 2015 Ram 2500 4x4 6.4L Hemi fits in the same spot in my residential garage where my '2012 GMC 1500 2WD fit.

[1wayhighway]

I think if you compare the turning radius of the two trucks you will find that they are not that different. The 250 I believe has less turning radius but it can't be that big of a difference.

[1wayhighway]

Another thing to note is if you look at the spec sheet for the F150's it says down on the bottom in small print that you can't tow a 5er with the 5.5 ft bed. The trailer wont clear the cab.

[in5r]

I too have the 28.5 RSTS a 2015 and am pulling with a 2012 F25 6.2 CC SB with a sliding hitch. I find this to be a good combo. As said many times already, it will be your payload that gets you in the end. As for the model of trailer you like, we have really liked ours thus far.

[Ottawasteve]

Before making your decision, you should get some accurate information from other websites on the capabilities of the F150 with Max Tow and HD Payload packages. The HD Payload Package will bring you close to 3000 lbs of payload in the F150 and you will likely be within your GVWR as well, but you will need to verify your rear axle ratings are sufficient.


Unfortunately on this site the uninformed consensus based on limited general knowledge of "half-tons" seems to be that anybody towing more than a small tent trailer with a F150 is endangering their family and everybody else on the highway. On RV.net and the Ford forums you can get accurate information from people who have actually towed with the F150 HD Payload an Max Tow packages.

[goducks]

You have to order a Max Tow HD F150. If that's what the OP is willing to do then great. However the 3000lb payload is for a base model truck. Once the truck is ordered with a higher trim level then the payload rating goes down. Fords build site doesn't show the drop in payload when adding options. Only way to find the true payload capacity is to look on the door jamb. Also for 2015-2016 Ford ditched the 7 lug wheels and higher RAWR rear end.


Only advantage of an F150 HD over an F250 6.2 is mpg. Towing mpg will be almost identical. Unloaded mpg will be a little higher with the F150. But remember the HD F150 requires the 3.73 gears. So you won't get the better mpg as you do with the 3.55 gears. Ride won't be all that much different. Payload will be smaller. There's no upside to an F150 HD, but there is with an F250. An F250 is a de-rated F350. Same running gear. so in the future an upgrade to a larger trailer is easier.

[Bobx2]

Based on conversations with a couple of owners, as well as what I have read, the fuel economy numbers of the ego-boost are highly inflated by FoMoCo. If a person wants to pull a fifth wheel, buy at a minimum, a 3/4 ton truck. Long bed, short bed, Chevy, Ford or Dodge, it doesn't matter. 1/2 tons aren't made for pulling 5th wheel campers.

[Flapper]

Sorry, but without the Heavy Duty PAYLOAD package, the trailer will be way over what the truck can carry. On mine, at the scale, I am right at capacity, and you will be pulling something 1,000 lbs heavier. You will be able to pull, and pull well - the truck just won't carry the weight. If you can get the payload package, along with the Max. tow - then you'd be in better shape, but maybe still overweight when all loaded up. That means getting a super crew cab with 6.5 bed.

On my 6.5 bed the Revolution works very, very well. And saves lots of weight over sliders. I'd be a little concerned about the 5.5 bed - better to go up to 6.5.

My overall mpg is right at 10.5, covering trips to all three coasts from Minn. (~12,000 miles). 16-17 when off trailer.

[Camper_bob]

Originally Posted by Ottawasteve

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Unfortunately on this site the uninformed consensus based on limited general knowledge of "half-tons" seems to be that anybody towing more than a small tent trailer with a F150 is endangering their family and everybody else on the highway. On RV.net and the Ford forums you can get accurate information from people who have actually towed with the F150 HD Payload an Max Tow packages.

Yeah, I just don't see a lot of this here. I DO see a lot of "check your numbers" advice, which I happen to agree with. I also see a lot of "I used to tow XX with YY and I was close to my limits and it wasn't fun" which I also happen to agree with because I've been there. I don't care what truck someone chooses, but I DO like to see that they've checked their numbers and are within rated capacity (artificial as it may be) with some safety margin.

If OP wants to explore getting the F-150 with both Max Tow AND Max Payload options, that's great, and it might fit the bill perfectly. But from what I understand, those have to be ordered, and they're not cheap at that. When I was looking, you couldn't find one on the lot to inspect. So why not just save yourself a bunch of time (and potentially money), and give yourself a WHOLE LOT more options by going for a 3/4 Ton truck that is built to handle the load you're asking of it?

Call me lazy, but I'd rather go hunting for a truck that is readily available (in all 3 (or 5) brands) and is priced to sell than to fight for one specific truck that MIGHT be able to do what I need it to do and pay a premium for it. The F-150 with Max Tow and Max Payload powered by EcoBoost may be billed as a "game changer" by Ford, but the way I see it, you gotta be IN the game to change it, and they're just not there yet.

[Crabman]

Originally Posted by Ottawasteve

Before making your decision, you should get some accurate information from other websites on the capabilities of the F150 with Max Tow and HD Payload packages. The HD Payload Package will bring you close to 3000 lbs of payload in the F150 and you will likely be within your GVWR as well, but you will need to verify your rear axle ratings are sufficient.


Unfortunately on this site the uninformed consensus based on limited general knowledge of "half-tons" seems to be that anybody towing more than a small tent trailer with a F150 is endangering their family and everybody else on the highway. On RV.net and the Ford forums you can get accurate information from people who have actually towed with the F150 HD Payload an Max Tow packages.

It has been some time since I have frequented RV.net. But unless things have changed, you could get flamed until you were well done there for asking a Can I tow a 5er with a 150 type question. Perhaps it is different now.