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10-09-2015, 09:56 PM
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Junior Member
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2016 North Point Awning collapsed - Anyone else?
My "carefree" awning arm bent and collapsed on by brand new awning. It was just lightly raining and my dealer told me about the rain dump feature. It worked great a few times then all sudden I look out and see it collapsed. This is my 13th RV so I am familiar with awnings and when not to use them. This was very disappointing.
The customer service guy I talked to today at Jayco was telling me he wasn't sure if they would cover it. Obviously, It's a failed design and/or a manufacture flaw. The arm is some very flimsy plastic/tin composite. Very thin! In either case, I hope Jayco stands behind their product. I have had several Jaycos, always had good success, and recommend them to others often! We will see!
Anyone else had a similar issue?
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10-10-2015, 05:31 AM
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Yep...same thing happened to our '16 Pinnacle. Let's just say the carefree products are not what they used to be. First time out, we had the awning out and got a light rain, less than a 1/2". The awning pooled and collapsed. Same as your pics. Then the fiasco started. Called the dealer, they got in touch with carefree, and eventually they mailed out a replacement. Keep in mind the roller was crushed down on top of my dining slide and I could not retract the slide, so I was stuck paying for a site while this was debated. Carefree finally agreed to replace, after another week goes by, they ship out the roller and new fabric....NO ARMS....So we go through the process again, and I get an email from carefree saying it was an oversight on their part and the arms were shipped. Another week goes by and I receive the arms. Of course, the local Jayco dealer where my coach was wouldn't do the labor unless I brought the coach to his shop and with the roller sitting on the slide, I opted to have a local on site repair done. Work is completed....I pay the labor...back to normal right? Wrong...get a call from my dealer saying carefree has contacted them wanting the damaged awning shipped back to them for analysis....They were supposed to send packaging and shipping labels, which like the missing arms, didn't show. Dealer warranty department wants to know when I'm getting this done. My reply, when someone pays for the site I was stuck on, ships the packaging and shipping labels, and has someone pack it....That's where it sits presently...
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10-10-2015, 05:40 AM
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You are right, carefree arms are made out of paper. We don't leave it out when we are away from the coach, have it tilted as much as possible, and if you hear rain, put it in. Hopefully your dealer will make it right.
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10-10-2015, 06:17 AM
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Wow, that looks like a very weak system. The manual awnings are certainly made much stronger then that.
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10-10-2015, 06:23 AM
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Is this common? What size awning was it? Makes me nervous, as I have a new North Point on order, and it has a pair of awnings...
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10-10-2015, 06:26 AM
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Mine has worked flawlessly for 4 years and in some rather strong wind. No substitute for the old manual one but it sure is nice to bring it in with a button!
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10-10-2015, 06:31 AM
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Ours is a 20 ft. After the bells and whistles i'll take the old manual ones over this junk hands down.
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10-10-2015, 10:49 AM
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We've always had the dometics, which seem a bit stronger, but after having a few motor failures, and though I can change them onsite, I still prefer the manual awnings. They just don't break and always work.
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10-10-2015, 11:06 AM
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They had DOMETIC on the 15's, making that switch was a mistake. We had the CAREFREE on our 08 SENECA and I much prefer the DOMETIC.
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10-10-2015, 11:09 AM
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If I knew how to post some pics i'd put up some of ours crushed down on the slide.
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10-10-2015, 05:28 PM
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Instead of Quick Reply, click on the gray colored Post Reply under the last post. Once up, scroll down and you'll see a section for Manage Attachments. There you can add photos that will go in your post.
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10-10-2015, 05:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin and Beth
If I knew how to post some pics i'd put up some of ours crushed down on the slide.
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And here are instructions for posting images
Jayco RV Owners Forum - FAQ: Reading and Posting Messages
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10-10-2015, 06:09 PM
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Thanks guys. Here'she a pic of the arm. I'very got some more attached to emails when this was going back and forth.
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10-10-2015, 06:14 PM
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Few more....
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10-10-2015, 06:34 PM
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Those are not pretty pictures!
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10-10-2015, 06:36 PM
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First trip....
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10-10-2015, 07:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin and Beth
Few more....
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Wow, yours is even worse than mine! So did Jayco cover it under warranty or was it carefree paying the dealer for repairs?
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10-10-2015, 08:16 PM
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Hope they can change that out for a dometic. If I had that luck on a first trip, I wouldn't want the same thing on there again. I had an awning collapse once, but it was my fault. Left it out during a pouring rain while trying to set up, forgot about it, went to bed. Heard a big crash during the night, went back to sleep, tried to get out of the door the next morning and no luck. Had to push the door open enough to cut the fabric to get the door the rest of the way open. After that, just ran knife along the awning track cutting the whole thing off, chunked the remains in the dumpster, and had a great remainder of a trip.
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10-10-2015, 08:20 PM
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Kind of hard to prove what happened, or how it happened really. You know what happened and that it's not your fault, but proving that can be difficult sometimes. In my case, I just had the dealer write a high estimate where it would cover my deductible (Awning $700, deductible $250, wrote estimate for $1000), got the awning, only used the parts I needed which was actually most of it, and wasn't out of pocket anything. I don't have to use insurance much at all, but since I do pay good money for it, I do use it when needed.
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10-10-2015, 08:31 PM
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Bought the coach through colerain rv. The warranty department helped me by going to carefree with the issue. Jayco wasn't at fault so the warranty was carefree and the dealer. They made good on it, but took over three weeks to get it completed. Carefree sent a roller and fabric but no arms and no return shipping labels. Then got to wait another week for them finally get it right. Local jayco dealer in west ky wasn't the the dealer that sold the coach and wasn'the interested on site warranty work. Colerain did Thier part. Paid the labor myself to get it changed.
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