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08-09-2016, 09:17 PM
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29.5 bhds not level when towing
We recently purchased a 29.5 bhds. I have a 08 f250 psd short bed. My truck is stock height but in 35" tires. I have heard that this is a jayco issue not making the trailers chassis taller but is there anything I can do to get the back end of the trailer more level. I noticed there is a second bolt hole about 3" lower where the leaf springs are mounted. Can I move the leafs down and gain the height I need. Any advice will help. Thank you
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08-09-2016, 09:19 PM
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Here is a picture of the hole in the leaf mount I found
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08-09-2016, 10:00 PM
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Yup, that is the one draw back of the HT line. Moving everything down on the bracket will help some but won't fix it totally. Somebody here went all out and had a sub frame built to get the trailer leveled out. Hopefully that person will chime in before to long.
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08-09-2016, 10:01 PM
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I was able to use the adjustment in my hitch head to level the trailer. What kind of hitch are you using.
Hard to tell from the photos, what needs to happen to level it?
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08-09-2016, 10:17 PM
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If your picture is accurate I wouldn't worry about it. You look as level as most on the road.
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08-09-2016, 10:37 PM
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I had to drop my hitch to the lowest level in my truck box. The only thing left to do for me is to increase the factory pin box height thereby dropping the front end and raising the rear when hooked up.
I am having a shop install the heavy duty shackle kit on monday next week. Maybe Ill see what they can do with the suspension while they have everything apart as well.
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08-10-2016, 05:39 AM
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You can also look at installing a Correct Track for another 2" lift.
Correct Trackā¢ Suspension Alignment System
I'm going to be installing this system at the end of this years camping season.
Dave...
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08-10-2016, 08:28 AM
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I had the dealer adjust my suspension to the bottom holes on the spring hangers before I took delivery. Mine is close enough to level and I'm happy with the clearance to the bed rails. My truck is on factory sized tires though.....
If that doesn't get you close enough, you either need a sub-frame or ditch the 35's.
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08-10-2016, 08:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustysocket
I was able to use the adjustment in my hitch head to level the trailer. What kind of hitch are you using.
Hard to tell from the photos, what needs to happen to level it?
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Your truck must not be as tall? In order to level the OP's situation, the trailer has to go up.
I have always thought that the pin box/hitch height adjustment is used to set the clearance over the bed rails and trailer suspension adjustments (or sub-frames, bigger tires, etc) are used to level the trailer. Doesn't do much good to level it with the pin box if that results in only a couple inches of bed rail clearance.
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08-10-2016, 09:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustysocket
I was able to use the adjustment in my hitch head to level the trailer. What kind of hitch are you using.
Hard to tell from the photos, what needs to happen to level it?
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Im running a husky 16k slide hitch. I thought about lowering it but i think ill have the dealer do that. I dont really know any of the tolerances on the truck to hitch spacing.
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08-10-2016, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cdash
I had the dealer adjust my suspension to the bottom holes on the spring hangers before I took delivery. Mine is close enough to level and I'm happy with the clearance to the bed rails. My truck is on factory sized tires though.....
If that doesn't get you close enough, you either need a sub-frame or ditch the 35's.
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I just didn't know if it was safe to run it on the lower hole. It doesn't effect the ride on the lower hole? I cant ditch the 35s just yet, I only have 4k miles on them.lol I have to get the ass end up on the trailer because i have a thule hitch bike rack and Im afraid Ill drag coming out of some driveways.
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08-11-2016, 02:04 PM
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Adjusting to lower hole won't affect ride
Adjusting to the lower hole will not affect how your 5th wheel pulls or rides and is what you need to do. I had the same problem trying to pull my Eagle HT with my Ford F250 4x4 diesel. I had the dealer make the adjustment and then I lowered my pin box to the lowest setting (still had plenty of bed rail clearance). Fixed my problem completely. But you should know that adjusting to the lower hole is not something to try your self. It took two guys over 2 hours to make the adjustment on mine at the dealers shop where they had plenty of jacks, the right tools and had done it before. The cost was on the dealer since he said that the trailer would fit my truck.
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08-11-2016, 04:45 PM
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Looks quite level to me I have same trailer I pull mine with my 1/2 ton Silverado and it's quite level
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08-11-2016, 08:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidsIV
I just didn't know if it was safe to run it on the lower hole. It doesn't effect the ride on the lower hole? I cant ditch the 35s just yet, I only have 4k miles on them.lol I have to get the ass end up on the trailer because i have a thule hitch bike rack and Im afraid Ill drag coming out of some driveways.
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When I was a service advisor at an rv dealership we had a guy buy a triple axle raptor and was towing it with a lifted truck. We added blocks between the axles and springs on the raptor to raise it 2" never saw the guy again before I left there so it must've worked.....
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08-12-2016, 07:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidsIV
We recently purchased a 29.5 bhds. I have a 08 f250 psd short bed. My truck is stock height but in 35" tires. I have heard that this is a jayco issue not making the trailers chassis taller but is there anything I can do to get the back end of the trailer more level. I noticed there is a second bolt hole about 3" lower where the leaf springs are mounted. Can I move the leafs down and gain the height I need. Any advice will help. Thank you
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Do you have an "auto" slider hitch? Those puppies seem to sit really high in the truck beds and they don't help the cause.
I also have a similar set up with a 29.5BHDS (2015) and my F250 (2016) with 6.5ft box and I had the same issue.
I moved my trailers pin box up as high it would go up into trailer (not hard to do on the 4 bolts with a couple of big box wrenches and maybe a strong bar) and then moved my hitch to a lower setting in truck bed. My set up still sits a little nose high but I can live with it. If you can do this...try to keep somewhat of a good clearance between the bottom of trailer and the truck box as not to hit the top of box when you hit uneven ground.
My problem was much worse when i had the Pullrite 16K Superglide hitch, as it sat higher in the truck bed, but everything seems to be better now with my newer Husky 16K (manual slider).
Good luck!
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08-12-2016, 02:13 PM
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I agree! Looks pretty leveled to me.
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Originally Posted by cariboocreek
If your picture is accurate I wouldn't worry about it. You look as level as most on the road.
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08-12-2016, 03:21 PM
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I 'm having the same issue. Yours looks closer to being level than mine. The dealer told me because the trailer is a half ton towable it will ride nose high with a bigger truck... I never owned a fifth wheel so i didn't know any better. What do you guys think??
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08-12-2016, 04:36 PM
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Kevin,
Actually, yours doesn't really look that bad. Yes, it's a bit nose high, but you can still tow it for a bit without adversely affecting anything. In our case we have a 2015 Ram 2500, which was a little higher and we were about 8 inches nose high. After maxing out all the possible adjustments (pin box, springs, axle flip, etc.) we ended up having a 4-inch sub frame added. Our trailer is now leveled and towed very well. We've just completed a 5,000 mile road trip with no issues whatsoever--even with wicked crosswind in Colorado!
After you'd towed for about 5,000 to 8,000 miles or so, you will want to upgrade your shackles, bolts and bushings to a more heavy duty ones. We went ahead and had ours upgraded when we had the sub-frame done.
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Originally Posted by Kevin O.
I 'm having the same issue. Yours looks closer to being level than mine. The dealer told me because the trailer is a half ton towable it will ride nose high with a bigger truck... I never owned a fifth wheel so i didn't know any better. What do you guys think??
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08-13-2016, 06:40 AM
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When driving down the road, the trailer should be as level as possible. An inch off won't make a big difference.
Fix it if you can or some suspension parts will wear out prematurely. Also, a level trailer with proper pin weight reduces chucking.
Camp On!
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08-13-2016, 08:53 AM
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It looks pretty darn level..........
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