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Old 01-19-2017, 10:27 AM   #1
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eagle ht 29fbds with 16 silverado max trailer pkg.

I have a 2016 silverado 1500 dbl. cab 4x4 with max trailer pkg. Was looking to get a 2017 eagle ht 29fbds. Is this a good idea for my truck? Seems like weights work out. Thoughts.
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Old 01-19-2017, 01:44 PM   #2
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you'll be over your payload with it. Though the trailer weight is fine, once you add the fifth wheel, fuel, pass. etc. you'll be over. I had a '14 1500 DBL cab with the 6.2, and wouldn't even think about hooking up a fiver to it, though I've seen some do it with a cougar fifth wheel, but I wouldn't recommend it
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Old 01-19-2017, 04:07 PM   #3
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Just depends on your definition of a good idea. I'm not sure if those weights really do work out.

You may look at heading to the scale to weight the truck. Best method is to load the truck with fuel, and all passengers who will be traveling with you when towing. Compare your weight to the GVWR listed on the door sticker. Actual weight minus GVWR will let you know what your remaining payload is. Keep in mind the 5th wheel hitch will consume some of that payload.

That trailer grosses out about 10,000 lbs. This would indicate approximately a 2,000lb king pin weight when loaded. This would put you well over the GVWR, likely by several hundred pounds.

I have no doubt it is possible for a half ton truck to physically tow this 5th wheel; however, it would not be legal going down the road with the truck over weight. Considering this, I would say it's not a good idea. If I was dead set on towing this 5th wheel with a half ton tuck, I would upgrade to LT tires and air bags.

With the floor plan being a bunkhouse, one could assume you are traveling with children. Towing overweight could be just too risky, especially with the family on board.

I've seen many threads like this one. Since Jayco makes a HT line of 5th wheels we all want to tow one with a HT truck. The most experienced on this site would probably advise against towing over the truck's GVWR.

If I'm being optimistic, I would say everyone has different comfort levels for towing. White knuckle driving for me could be normal easy towing for you. In the end only you know what you are comfortable with.

If a bunkhouse is in your future, I would strongly recommend a smaller bumper pull trailer. While a 5th wheel tows better (in my opinion) the bumper pull bunk house numbers can work out better with a half ton. If you are towing with your family on board, and you are looking at a long bumper pull, or you are set on a 5th wheel, I would strongly recommend a HD truck. Towing difference is night and day between half ton and HD truck.
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Yes, it have been said already so do a research on your truck.
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Personally I wouldn't tow my 29.5FBDS with anything smaller than my GMC 2500. Even though they say it's 1/2 ton towable moving it isn't the problem, controlling it and stopping it is. A 1/2 ton truck just doesn't have the size to keep it under control in an emergency situation.
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Air bags, better tires, vented rotors, heavy duty brake pads on double piston calipers. Travel light with no more then 10 gallons of water. My 2015 Chevrolet Silverado 5.3 4 wheel drive with trailer package pulls it fine and stops even better. 8800 pounds dry weight. Believe what you want to believe but it works.

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I have a 2016 silverado 1500 dbl. cab 4x4 with max trailer pkg.....snip
IMO the 29.5 FBDS and your 5.3L TV both loaded for a family of four would exceed your TV's "remaining" available payload capacity. The 29.5's as-shipped UVW will be around 8,700lbs and/or heavier. IMO very few 1/2 tons are configured to tow this FW under loaded conditions with a pin weight in the 20% to 25% range (most common).



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I think it would would be ok going downhill with a tailwind on a straight road with new smooth black top. Beyond that, I can't imagine it being a very pleasurable experience if you drive any distance. Even beyond the payload numbers, it just won't feel good. These HT trailers are best paired with the 3/4 ton gas or diesel trucks. I have a smaller 26.5BHS and with just my wife, son, and dog plus a couple small items in the bed we ate up probably 2300lbs of payload.
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You don't know until you have done it Also I don't travel as a family of four. Just my wife and
I. Also I have a 27.5 RLTS.

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Sounds like you trying to justify to you wife why you bought more truck then you needed to. So don't criticized until you have driven a Chevy 1500 (best riding truck ever) towing 8800 # fifth wheel.

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I have a 2016 silverado 1500 dbl. cab 4x4 with max trailer pkg. Was looking to get a 2017 eagle ht 29fbds. Is this a good idea for my truck? Seems like weights work out. Thoughts.
I have a 2016 29.5 FBDS and tow it with a 2011 3/4 ton GMC extra cab, standard bed with the Duramax diesel. While my truck pulls the FBDS awesomely well, I agree with the others that pulling it with a 1/2 ton is a stretch. Even though Jayco calls it a 'HT' or 'half ton' towable, the 29.5 FBDS is on the large end of the HT 5th wheel lineup, pushing 10,000 lbs fully loaded. What I saw looking at a 2016 Chevy brochure, it says the trailer limit is from 10,800 to 11,800 depending on your engine trans combo. You may just squeek under the wire depending on how much is loaded in your truck and which engine and trans you have. But if you're under the listed limit, it won't be by much.
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eagle ht 29fbds with 16 silverado max trailer pkg.

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Sounds like you trying to justify to you wife why you bought more truck then you needed to. So don't criticized until you have driven a Chevy 1500 (best riding truck ever) towing 8800 # fifth wheel.

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Hope that wasn't aimed at me. It was a little sarcasm. Didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings or come across as a . The guy asked a question of a group of people. Some with experience towing with a 1/2 ton. Others have used a 3/4. I don't think it's a good idea. Not so much from a safety perspective but a comfort/having the right tool for the job perspective. My point of view is from that of someone towing a lighter trailer with a 3/4. Also, I'm pretty in tune and with the the things I fly or drive or ride, and this combo feels good. I can't see doing it with a lighter lesser sprung truck. That's all. For the record wife likes my truck from a passenger perspective and I didn't have to justify anything. I bought a great truck that works well for me.
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Opinions mean nothing, it all boils down to what the scales say and what the weight ratings say. After that, it's up to each person if they want to be legal or illegal. That's all it is. Doesn't matter what brand, what size, what ratings, what trailer. Legal is legal and illegal is illegal. While it's discussed as this truck verses that truck, it actually means legal verses illegal. Since we don't have to cross DOT scales, no one will ever know if you're​ legal or illegal other than assuming. Until that accident happens, especially if there is a death, will the true come out.

Anyone ever asks me about 1500 vs 2500 vs 3500 vs 4500 vs 5500, first thing I ask is what does the scales tell you. The second thing I say, I have no opinion, the scales do


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I've got the 2016 Jayceo HT fhbds and I pull with my 2010 Silverado z71 trailer package it pulls very well with this trailer I've never felt worried longest trip has been 9 hour drive but I mainly pull it to my seasonal campsite which is 3 hour drive as for breaking my trailer also has breaks and breaking isn't an issue plus with the towing mode on truck really works well, I would definitely like to get a 3/4 ton one day as I plan on traveling farther distances and traveling more, but as of now my 1/2 ton pulls my Jayco just fine
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Air bags, better tires, vented rotors, heavy duty brake pads on double piston calipers. Travel light with no more then 10 gallons of water. My 2015 Chevrolet Silverado 5.3 4 wheel drive with trailer package pulls it fine and stops even better. 8800 pounds dry weight. Believe what you want to believe but it works.

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This ^^^^is the way to do it BUT it wont work well with kids and all the junk wives need to bring along.
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Who needs kids @ there stuff. If I had to bring kids I buy a Class A Newmar Dutch with a Tag axle towing a trailer with a Dodge Caravan inside and all there stuff.

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Just curious....., with your Eagle HT 27.5 RLTS do you mean 8,800lbs loaded weight, in lieu of 8,800lbs dry weight (UVW)?

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