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Old 01-02-2016, 11:58 AM   #1
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Eagle HT vs. other Eagle products

Is the Eagle HT 5th wheel a good quality 5th wheel? How does it compare to the other Eagle 5th wheels in quality? What makes an HT lighter? Is it just length? Thank you.
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HT stands for half-ton, which means the trailer can be towed with a 1/2 ton truck like Ford F-150. HT line is lighter than Eagle. Quality wise I think both the HT and Eagle lines are pretty good. It's really more about your tow vehicle's capacity and budget.
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Old 01-02-2016, 08:50 PM   #3
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Not saying heavier is always better, but if two rigs made by same company with similar floor plan and one is several thousand lbs lighter, the reduced weight has to come from somewhere. It's not like they r using high strength lightweight exotic materials on the ht series.

I looked at the ht series briefly (until I tried to hook it up to my ram 3500) and they were nice enough, but start comparing them to heavier, more costly models and the shortcuts start to show
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HT stands for half-ton, which means the trailer can be towed with a 1/2 ton truck like Ford F-150. HT line is lighter than Eagle. Quality wise I think both the HT and Eagle lines are pretty good. It's really more about your tow vehicle's capacity and budget.
+1 not sure how they cut weight
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I didn't do an in depth comparison, because we had to buy light. The regular line wasn't an option for us. It appeared that they were very specific in those materials we could externally observe. Thin luan plywood wherever possible, thin fiberglass skin for the shell, hatch frames are thin aluminum, light sinks/shower pans, light plumbing fixtures, thin counter tops, vinyl "stickers" for backsplash accents, faux wood interior trim rather than real wood, etc., etc.

That said, ours has not shown any type of wear in three heavy seasons and 12,000 miles. While there are a few places where I thought "they expect screws to hold this together?", nothing has stripped, come loose or been any issue. So while it may not be as robust, it was engineered right. I would not be surprised to learn that they are applying the material savings to the upper lines, and only sticking with heavier items where they are cheaper or give the impression to the buyer of "better value".
Maybe after 10-15 years of wear and tear there may be a difference...but then again, maybe not!
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Could have completely towed a standard eagle but we got the HT. I am extremely happy with it. For what we do the "lesser" materials work fine. The aluminum is a great addition and the "thin" fiberglass exterior is still solid.
Best of all I get 13-14mpg towing at sea level (when I am there)
Lighter materials don't always mean bad. For us it works great and am very happy with the result.

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We haven't had our Eagle HT long. We just got back from our first trip with it. We like it a lot, and it is made better than the TT we had, which was an ultra light.


I think part of the weight savings on these is the height. These are mid-profile, the ceiling /roof is not as tall. Even the front cap is smaller than the standard Eagle.
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As part of my purchase/decision making process, I was looking at weights and capacities.

Based on what I was looking at, I don't think the HT is all that "light weight" as much as it is "low GVWR". Comparing the 29.5BHDS to my 2006 Sandpiper, the weights aren't too far off. The Sandpiper however had 3000 pounds of cargo capacity, where the HT will be closer to 1000. I'm prepared to upgrade the springs, ales and tires if needed to provide additions all capacity.

I wish the offered that floor plan in an Eagle with a higher GVWR. I would have gotten that. The bunk plans in the Eagle are just too long for us.
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To long in total length.

And yes the GVW is low. I overload it all time lol.

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It comes close lol
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Crash, I wonder about your claim of low cargo capacity. My 26.5 RLS sticker states that my dry weight is 7,272 with a total GVWR of 9,950. That's almost 2,700 pounds of capacity. I don't believe I even come close to that, but where does your 1,000 come from. My recollection from when I bought my 26.5 RLS was that all the HTs had a GVWR of 9,950 with most, if not all, of them having a dry weight of less than 7,500 pounds.
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29.5BHDS if I am not mistaken has a weight of 8 and some change.
GVW of 10,000
Probably where the 1000 is coming from
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Crash, I wonder about your claim of low cargo capacity. My 26.5 RLS sticker states that my dry weight is 7,272 with a total GVWR of 9,950. That's almost 2,700 pounds of capacity. I don't believe I even come close to that, but where does your 1,000 come from. My recollection from when I bought my 26.5 RLS was that all the HTs had a GVWR of 9,950 with most, if not all, of them having a dry weight of less than 7,500 pounds.
This is where. 29.5 BHDS with not much added for options. Not 1,000 pounds exactly, but poetry close.



We are getting more options on ours (leveling system and dual pane windows) and I expect ours may be under 1,000. We like to travel with water in the tank to cover use while on the road traveling, so that's another 400 pounds gone. Doesn't leave much.....
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We have a 2015 Eagle HT 27.5bhs and have been happy with it so far (besides being nose high which we took care of by putting a subframe under it). April will be 2 years of owning. Haven't had any major issues with it. Have pulled it right at 10k miles and used it 84 nights (most of them boon docking). HAve pulled it into some pretty rough stuff in national forests and haven't had anything really go wrong mechanically (front cap is fading which they'll fix). Very satisfied with it so far.
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We have a 2015 Eagle HT 27.5bhs and have been happy with it so far (besides being nose high which we took care of by putting a subframe under it). April will be 2 years of owning. Haven't had any major issues with it. Have pulled it right at 10k miles and used it 84 nights (most of them boon docking). HAve pulled it into some pretty rough stuff in national forests and haven't had anything really go wrong mechanically (front cap is fading which they'll fix). Very satisfied with it so far.

Explain the sub frame for the nose high issues?
My truck darn near drags the rear bumper/hitch whenever I go through some locations.
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We're also looking into adding a sub frame to our rig as well. Can you please PM me with your overall cost, if you don't mind sharing? We're also planning to beef up the suspension with wet bolts and heavy duty shackles and bushings, while doing the frame.

[QUOTE=jackofall;367104]We have a 2015 Eagle HT 27.5bhs and have been happy with it so far (besides being nose high which we took care of by putting a subframe under it). April will be 2 years of owning. Haven't had any major issues with it. Have pulled it right at 10k miles and used it 84 nights (most of them boon docking). HAve pulled it into some pretty rough stuff in national forests and haven't had anything really go wrong mechanically (front cap is fading which they'll fix). Very satisfied with it so far.[/QUOT
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http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f6...ght-18663.html


Here's a thread with my before pic in the first post. 2nd page has pictures after and shows the subframe with description. Also installed wet bolt kit. A friend and I did it, so cost for the subframe was minimal. Probably 150 in material or so. Wet bolt kit off of Amazon around 90.
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Personally, I'm looking at the 27.5RLTS for my next FW. It is nearly 3' longer than my '02 Komfort 25FGW, which is a single-slide, low-profile, FW. The Komfort is one heavy beast, with an 11,300 GVW and > 4k CCC, per the brochure. I can only think that about 2k of that CC is the interior. :-) I do find it interesting that a call to the factory told me that not all the Eagle HTs have the 9950 GVW, which is surprising as their web page shows 9950 GVW for every single HT model. I do have concerns with the just-over 2k CC on the 27.5RLTS and need to weigh the stuff I currently have in my FW and see what I'm carrying. My other choice is a similar KZ Durango 1500, which has a 10.5k GVW and about 600 lbs more CC and a much larger black tank, which is my biggest knock on the Jayco. As it is, if I do decide on the Jayco, I'd be giving up 13 gallons black capacity over my current FW; not fun if you boondock a lot, like we do.

A lot of the weight savings is in the slide systems, as well as construction. I know my Komfort has 16" on-center wall studs while these "lite" FWs have 24", or more, from my reading.

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They have a late build, 28.5BXBH that had a GVWR of 11,000, which gives about 2000 cargo capacity. I'd be much happier with that on the 29.5BHDS!!
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Is the Eagle HT 5th wheel a good quality 5th wheel?
I've had mine for three years, traveled 35000 miles and its good so far . Keep an eye on the roof, outside caulking and tires and all is well (of course, that goes with all fivers).
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