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Old 07-12-2016, 08:13 PM   #171
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The fridge is not as heavy as 4 people sitting at the table on the other slide. I don't get this at all. On the dinette slide you can have 6 people sitting in chairs, 4 at the table and 2 in recliners. Plywood has a strong and weak lay and if you have ever built anything out of plywood you know what I am talking about. I wonder if the floor in some unit designs has the weak lay for the floor that extends over the frame. The weak and strong direction is marked on the sheet. You can't end or overhang plywood in the weak direction even if you are trying to make the most use from each foot of material. The supports on my pinnacle are not bent in the slightest but they would never hold up the weight on that slide wall.

I don't get this.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:20 PM   #172
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The fridge is not as heavy as 4 people sitting at the table on the other slide. I don't get this at all. On the dinette slide you can have 6 people sitting in chairs, 4 at the table and 2 in recliners. Plywood has a strong and weak lay and if you have ever built anything out of plywood you know what I am talking about. I wonder if the floor in some unit designs has the weak lay for the floor that extends over the frame. The weak and strong direction is marked on the sheet. You can't end or overhang plywood in the weak direction even if you are trying to make the most use from each foot of material. The supports on my pinnacle are not bent in the slightest but they would never hold up the weight on that slide wall.

I don't get this.
They are two different types of slides.
The Schwintek takes all the weight on top of the outer edge of the floor with rollers that are placed, basically, on top of the supports. All the weight rolls in across the 5, or so, rollers and out across the rollers. The weight sits on the rollers when the slide is in or out.
(I'm sort of thinking they bend when driving and pounding over bumps)

Look underneath at the roller impressions that are pressed into the bottom of the slide. There is some weight there.

If you had your living room slide (through frame slide) coming in with your 6 people in it you might bend the supports, but you wouldn't move it in like that and you wouldn't drive with 6 people in the slide. The slide sits differently on the front edge of the floor And the big steel bars underneath take a fair bit of the weight, especially when retracted.
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:38 AM   #173
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They are two different types of slides.
The Schwintek takes all the weight on top of the outer edge of the floor with rollers that are placed, basically, on top of the supports. All the weight rolls in across the 5, or so, rollers and out across the rollers. The weight sits on the rollers when the slide is in or out.
(I'm sort of thinking they bend when driving and pounding over bumps)

Look underneath at the roller impressions that are pressed into the bottom of the slide. There is some weight there.

If you had your living room slide (through frame slide) coming in with your 6 people in it you might bend the supports, but you wouldn't move it in like that and you wouldn't drive with 6 people in the slide. The slide sits differently on the front edge of the floor And the big steel bars underneath take a fair bit of the weight, especially when retracted.
I am aware of the slide types and design differences. There is structure under the slide rollers, it's made up of aluminum joists and boxing and plywood. In order for the braces to bend that structure would have to bend. Do you think it's related to changes in that structure specific to Northpoint? I agree it's most likely happening on the road.
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:55 AM   #174
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It appears Jayco/Lippert may have underestimated the stress/weight of the large slide with the Schwintek. I met a guy on vacation that has the large Jayco toy hauler and he is experiencing the same issue. I can tell you that Lippert uses the same outriggers on the Pinnacle also from what I've seen. With that said it may not be a problem if you don't have a large slide using the Schwintek. The 2017 North Point has newly designed outriggers which tells me they recognize they have a problem. You may want to look at a 2017 Pinnacle to see if they are different and that would give you an indication if they also experienced the issue.
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Old 07-13-2016, 11:07 AM   #175
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This is what the 2016 Pinnacle supports like on my camper. There are three of these under the Schwintek fridge slide.
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you have the new updated outriggers.... Apparently they made a change mid production. My unit was built around August,2015 and they came without the extra bend. You should be all set from what I've seen/read.
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My supports are the same as eldermike. My trailer was built Jan 2016, I believe


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Old 07-14-2016, 10:54 AM   #178
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Not so. FBTS has the same on his 2016 with the bend and he had his bend and jam the slide. They will fail just takes longer.
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Old 07-14-2016, 02:32 PM   #179
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Just so I'm clear... the Schwintek slide uses the aluminum gear track on the side of the slide unit?

My 361REQS has this type of slide for the ODS slides that carry the fridge/stove and also for the queen bed. My trailer is 2hrs away right now so I'll be checking into this when I bring it back home again.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:30 PM   #180
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Not so. FBTS has the same on his 2016 with the bend and he had his bend and jam the slide. They will fail just takes longer.
so far pulled and camped through 4 states without any bending.
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