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05-27-2017, 04:19 PM
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Jack Pads
Anyone know the size of the 6-point leveling jacks?? 9" or 10"
I think most 5th wheels have the 9" and Class-A Motorhomes have the 10".
I may be purchasing the Snap pads for our unit. Like that you install and never have to use pads under your jacks.
Has anyone ordered & installed???
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05-27-2017, 11:07 PM
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I have them on my FW. I would buy them again.
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05-28-2017, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Rustysocket
I have them on my FW. I would buy them again.
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Do you have these same brand? SnapPads? So, are they 9"?
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05-28-2017, 09:39 AM
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Yes I believe they are 9". We put a set of Snap Pads on our unit which has the 3.0 leveling system and they fit perfectly. They seem to help eliminate the "out of stroke" problem with the 3.0 system on our unit and they protect the "feet" on the stiff legs. I painted our "feet" with a black spray-on rubberized undercoating before installing the pads to help protect them too.
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05-28-2017, 04:12 PM
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Installed them the day we took delivery. They are great and they are 9".
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05-28-2017, 09:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireBC
Do you have these same brand? SnapPads? So, are they 9"?
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Yes, 9" SnapPads.
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05-29-2017, 04:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fingerlakes
Yes I believe they are 9". We put a set of Snap Pads on our unit which has the 3.0 leveling system and they fit perfectly. They seem to help eliminate the "out of stroke" problem with the 3.0 system on our unit and they protect the "feet" on the stiff legs. I painted our "feet" with a black spray-on rubberized undercoating before installing the pads to help protect them too.
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Thanks for your reply. We have never had Auto-leveling, this new unit will be the first!!! All I know is it has a 6-point leveling system.
Not sure what " out of stroke" actually means. From the messages I'm reading in forums, I assume it's in regards to the "Error" messages people get with their systems.
I'm sure our PDI will go over all this but, i'm hoping for ease of having auto-leveling rather than constant problems...
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05-30-2017, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FireBC
Thanks for your reply. We have never had Auto-leveling, this new unit will be the first!!! All I know is it has a 6-point leveling system.
Not sure what " out of stroke" actually means. From the messages I'm reading in forums, I assume it's in regards to the "Error" messages people get with their systems.
I'm sure our PDI will go over all this but, i'm hoping for ease of having auto-leveling rather than constant problems...
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Auto leveling works fine if you keep the conditions necessary to level the rig within the limits of the system. Out of stroke is that one of the jacks has reached it's travel limits and level is still not achieved. In those situations it is common to need to put some blocks under the jack. Lets say the limit is 10" and you need 11" to achieve level for one particular jack. If you put 5" of blocks under that pad the computer now only thinks it is extended 6"
It's not a perfect system, but mine has been easy to use and well worth the investment in my opinion.
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05-30-2017, 01:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustysocket
Auto leveling works fine if you keep the conditions necessary to level the rig within the limits of the system. Out of stroke is that one of the jacks has reached it's travel limits and level is still not achieved. In those situations it is common to need to put some blocks under the jack. Lets say the limit is 10" and you need 11" to achieve level for one particular jack. If you put 5" of blocks under that pad the computer now only thinks it is extended 6"
It's not a perfect system, but mine has been easy to use and well worth the investment in my opinion.
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Does the system indicate when one jack has reached its travel limits? I'm assuming you get an code error.... So it's okay that just one jack needs the assistance of having some blocks to level up? Doesn't affect the rest in leveling? What is the usual limit? I think I read within these forums to never extend past the 6-7" mark, is that about right??
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05-30-2017, 01:38 PM
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Yes, it gives you the "out of stroke" error...
The system doesn't know whether you have put blocks under a jack or if it's just unlevel ground...
Each jack is controlled independently by the computer and the stroke of one has no bearing on the stroke of the other jacks... At my home site one side regularly extends 8-9" while the other is 6-7" to achieve level. I believe they have about 10" of total stroke, but am not sure.
I believe your confusing how far to drop your front landing gear before unhooking and prior to levelling when referring to the 6-7" mark. If you drop them landing gear to the ground prior to unhooking, and leveling you give the system very little room to drop the nose if required to level, then the system will attempt to level by raising the back to compensate and you increase the odds of getting the out of stroke error, or lifting wheels off the ground. I usually drop my landing gear so they are about four inches off the ground. Then use the power jacks to unhook from the rig so that when I'm unhooked from the hitch I'm about 5-6" into the stroke of the system. It's hard to describe but once you get your rig and go over it with your dealer it will make more sense.
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05-30-2017, 01:57 PM
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Sounds all too confusing, someone who has never had auto leveling. But, I'm sure it will all make more sense when being shown during our PDI. Thanks for the information
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05-30-2017, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FireBC
Sounds all too confusing, someone who has never had auto leveling. But, I'm sure it will all make more sense when being shown during our PDI. Thanks for the information
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Yes, once you have your system it will all make more sense. Don't get preoccupied with it during your PDI , the system works well and is really pretty self explanatory. Once you watch it work a few time it will all come together for you.
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05-30-2017, 02:35 PM
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How far you have to drop the landing gear must vary with how high your nose is when towing. Most 5'ers that I see going down the road appear to be several inches high in the nose. I was 3" high when I used the bed-hitch, and I had occasional problems auto-leveling. When I switched to the Automated Safety Hitch, it brought the nose down to level, and I can now drop the landing gear all the way, and then auto-level without incident.
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05-30-2017, 03:49 PM
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Are the rear jacks on the 377 supposed to be angled out slightly? I noticed on my last trip the far rear jacks were on an outward angle. Both rear ones looked like photo below.
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05-30-2017, 04:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MadJoker TX
Are the rear jacks on the 377 supposed to be angled out slightly? I noticed on my last trip the far rear jacks were on an outward angle. Both rear ones looked like photo below.
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Interesting question. I have noticed one of mine looks like that where i park it at my house. I think it has to do with the slope of the ground and how much it raises the axle/tire and or lowers the opposite front corner.
Then i am guessing it looks more like an optical illusion.... BUT that is just my guess. Would like to know what others think.
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05-30-2017, 04:33 PM
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Mine are angled out slightly as well. It's symmetrical so my assumption is that it's done by design, as opposed to one being bent.
Probably more of a margin of error when cutting and welding the brackets than anything else.
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05-30-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonmiddlebrooks
Interesting question. I have noticed one of mine looks like that where i park it at my house. I think it has to do with the slope of the ground and how much it raises the axle/tire and or lowers the opposite front corner.
Then i am guessing it looks more like an optical illusion.... BUT that is just my guess. Would like to know what others think.
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Awesome, thanks I feel better now. I was like I am about to head to Florida from the 8th to the 25th and did not have time to deal with an issue.
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05-30-2017, 06:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustysocket
Mine are angled out slightly as well. It's symmetrical so my assumption is that it's done by design, as opposed to one being bent.
Probably more of a margin of error when cutting and welding the brackets than anything else.
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Thank your thought it was just me.
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05-30-2017, 08:15 PM
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I have a North Point 351RSQS my jack at the same location looks like that also.
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06-01-2017, 07:55 AM
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Just found $10 off SnapPads using 'iRV2017'
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