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Old 08-15-2012, 04:41 PM   #1
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jacking up trailer

I have a quick question...

I'm going to be flipping the axles on my 98 26 foot fifth wheel this weekend, and no I'm not turning the axles upside down. I picked up 4 spring perches for $12 so I will take the axles out and weld the new perches on top.

My question is when I jack up the trailer can I use the rear stabilizing scissor jacks to raise the wheels off the ground? or is that a bad idea...

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Old 08-15-2012, 04:55 PM   #2
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Not sure if it is a good idea or not, but I have done it more than once on my past TT's. It does work and I noticed no difference afterwords. A better idea though is a floor jack. $30 at alot of places.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:51 PM   #3
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Rear scissors jacks are not meant for lifting...another name for them is 'stabilizing jacks'!!
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:19 PM   #4
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X 2, I even correct my wife that they are not leveling jacks, they are stabalizing. You level it with blocks or etc., under the tires, not with the stabalizing jacks.

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Old 08-15-2012, 08:21 PM   #5
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Thanks for the info, if you will notice in my original post I referred to them as "stabilizing" jacks... I've been 5th wheelin' for years, this is my first Jayco. My old Golden Falcon had these mickey mouse jacks to put under the rear for stabilizing, I've had the Jayco for 5 days now and I'm already in love with the permanently attached scissor jacks.
I have a good floor jack already so I'm set there, picked up a set of tires for it today will put them on early next week and hopefully go on the maiden camping voyage next weekend.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:36 PM   #6
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Very bad idea.
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Very bad idea.
It really depends on the manufacturer of the frame.
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Rear scissors jacks are not meant for lifting...another name for them is 'stabilizing jacks'!!
ditto.
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Axle stands fore and aft of the wheels on the frame rails... only SAFE way to do it..
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X10 on the jack stands on either side of the axle under frame rails. To my knowledge, there are no stabilizing scissor jacks on the market that are strong enough to properly support the weight of a 5er. If you do this, you are risking your life and/or limb.
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Perhaps there has been some mis-understanding... I never planned on using the stabilizers to support the camper! I was asking if I could raise the trailer with them, and then place jack stands under it.

what I ended up doing was cranking the front jacks way up and placing jackstands under the frame forward of the wheels, then using my floor jack raised the rear of the trailer up and place another set of stands under the frame rear of the wheels. Then I lowered the front jacks till they were just touching the ground and lowered the rear stabilizers so they were just touching the ground giving me 8 points of contact with the trailer raised off the ground.
Axle flip is completed, brakes are serviced, wheel bearings re-packed, and new tires going on today... then out for the maiden voyage this weekend, we're going to try and get some fall camping in before freeze up.
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OK, now we have a better idea of what you had in mind. But your question asked about raising the camper with stabs until you could put jackstands under the camper, and that means supporting the camper weight on the stabs, even for a brief time, which is a no-no. Bottom line, glad you accomplished your objective and are safe.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:41 PM   #13
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Here are some pictures of the new rig...

Got the axle flip and all the maintenance work done, ready for camping

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Nice Job. Any major or unforseen problems? Looks Good!!
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Nice Job. Any major or unforseen problems? Looks Good!!
Actually the job went quite smooth, the only issue I had was a seized u-bolt. 3 foot johnson bar took care of that... and new u-bolts.

Just got home from the first camping trip with it and my guess-estimate for heights was spot on. I flipped the axles which gives 5" of lift but I knew I didn't need that much so I raise the springs to the middle hole on the frame. Then I lowered my hitch one hole to bring the front of the trailer down, when I hooked up Friday and pulled it out of the yard i stood back and took a look and to my amazement it was sitting perfectly.
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