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Old 02-23-2015, 12:28 PM   #1
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Landing Gear Inop

Ok, guys. I'm hoping one of you knowledgeable folks can help me.

We have a 2012 321RLTS fifth wheel, and the curb side front landing gear won't go up or down. The street side (by the propane bottles) works fine. We are in a safe place, so there is zero emergency. I just need to effect repairs to the landing gear.

I suspect that maybe the shear pin on the curb side has broken. The problem is, "How do you get TO it??".

We have a generator in the front compartment, and the battery compartment is all sealed. Is it possible to reach the linkage coming from the front storage bay, by removing the front bulkhead??

Any help appreciated in advance.
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You should be able to pry the flimsy trim from the inside front storage locker. There are just staples holding it. You said you have the genny so it might be a flame retardant material. I had my street side gear shear right off on the drive shaft from it wiggling so much. Finally scored the pin and with only 1/4" left the weight was too great for it.

Once you pop the panel off you should be able to see the top of the leg. Pop the domed cover off and inspect your top gears. I would not be under it without blocking under the frame. Once blocked have someone activate the motor and see what happens. My gear fell right off into may hand and the whole leg had to be replaced since the shaft broke.

The only way you can get it on or off your TV is by way of jack, DO NOT JUST GO ON ONE LEG!! You need to help it on the damaged side and then pull the pins and tie it up. It will fall out if not ties up and secured. Doing this repair campside would be a challenge if the whole leg is bad and needs to come out.

If your shaft is good then check the pin in the gears to see if one sheared. Does the square drive arm turn all the way across the storage locker? If so then it is the curb side leg that's bad. There is a shear pin in the base of the gear you can tap out with a punch. Also there is an internal gear in the leg you can't see or get to.
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Thanks. It's at the storage unit, attached to the TV. No danger of it falling.

I'll have to look and see if I can access it from the genny compartment.
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Any idea of a part number for the shear pin?
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Looking at a schematic, it looks like just a regular 1/4 inch bolt with a lock nut.
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I don't know if this applies to your fifth wheel, but some landing legs instead of having one motor and a bar driving the other leg have two motors, one at each leg. If yours is such a "heavy duty" landing leg setup, you won't have a bar going across from side to side.
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I looked at mine and I see one shear pin right near the motor. If the crossbar isn't moving that may be the one. If not the other one is hidden as you said behind the batt box.
Should be accessible by removing the thin inside panel.
Looks like a 1/4 20 bolt about 1 1/4 long.
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I looked at mine and I see one shear pin right near the motor. If the crossbar isn't moving that may be the one. If not the other oh hidden as you said behind the batt box.
Should be accessible by removing the thin inside panel.
Looks like a 1/4 20 bolt about 1 1/4 long.
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I had one break on a 2010 321RLTS. Remove your propane bottle and locate the motor. If the shaft going to the other side isn't moving when you run the motor check the shear pin next to motor. I would start there before I would start tearing things apart.
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I had one break on a 2010 321RLTS. Remove your propane bottle and locate the motor. If the shaft going to the other side isn't moving when you run the motor check the shear pin next to motor. I would start there before I would start tearing things apart.

Had this issue with a 05 designer and is as stated above . Be sure to turn the bar going across to get the two legs the same length before you put the new pin or " screw " back in . I also used a nylock to make sure it didn't come back off.
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Another tip: There is not much clearance on that pin, so make sure you don't make it to long or it will contact some hardware.
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Thanks for the prompt replies. It's going to be a week or so before I can get back to the storage spot to try to fix it. That four letter "W" word intrudes.....
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Another tip: There is not much clearance on that pin, so make sure you don't make it to long or it will contact some hardware.

I can see you , have done this before I had the same issue bolt lock nut nothing extra [emoji4]
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Any idea of a part number for the shear pin?
I don't as it depends on the model number of legs you have from Attwood. There are a few points that can shear depending on issue so you should start at the motor and work towards the leg. Google an Attwood landing gear schematic and have it with you to help diagnos. They are all close so even if not the exact model it will help you.
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If you have your Vin Jaco should be able to give you a build sheet and it might have the jack info. But yeah there are a bunch of pounds inside that can sheer as well as the arm.
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It's nothing but a 1/4 x 20 bolt, 1 1/4 long with a nylon lock nut.
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After much cussing and yoga contortions, I got the shear bolt replaced and tightened. Luckily it was the motor side that had sheared. I was very proud of myself, watching the landing gear go up and down until I realized that....THEY AREN'T EVEN!!

I know you told me, but in my struggle to line up the holes the two landing gear were at two different extension lengths. I need a beer! LOL
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It's nothing but a 1/4 x 20 bolt, 1 1/4 long with a nylon lock nut.
I believe it should be a grade 8 bolt. At least that is what the slide shear pins are.
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north, thanks for checking in on this! I try to learn my lessons the easy way. Now all I gotta do is remember.
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Glad it was an easy fix for you, yeah you have the legs off a bit but at least you know the issue and can get them both lined up again after your beer. Thankfully being off a bit isnt' the end of the world, just hope the access isn't too bad.


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Personally I wouldn't use a grade 8 bolt, the idea is for this bolt to break first before other items get damaged, its more then just a way to connect 2 pieces of metal it is a safety item. Not knowing what is in there to start with doesn't help but I would run a grade 3 maybe grade 5. IF your constantly breaking one I would take a step back and look at your setup, Are the legs even, any binding, maybe marking the half way point and or end so you don't bottom them out, or extend inside too far. There are lots of ways you could be breaking them. I feel a grade 8 would just be masking an issue and eventually leading to damage, unless the manufacture recommend it I wouldn't use that grade.

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Everything is fixed now. I used an inspection camera to help me line up the bolt holes after I turned the square tube to even up the legs. Since the square tube not only turns around the inner shaft, but also slides side to side, doing this "blind" would have been a real trick.

I'm just glad it wasn't the other side!
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