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07-27-2018, 09:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Full timing in the 377, but Llano, Texas is now home
Posts: 842
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Originally Posted by atsacco
Three 20 inch fans in the living area!
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Wow 3 fans! Serious airflow. Oops, sorry about the wrong name, my bad.
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2007 Dodge Ram 3500 Laramie MC 4x2 DRW 6.7CTD, B&W Companion Slider 3405, Edge Evolution CS (deleted DPF/DOC-special tune), TireMinder TM-77, Firestone air springs, CustomFlow tailgate, Tonnosport tonneau cover, Champion 3100w genset
2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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07-27-2018, 09:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: smithville, ont.
Posts: 2,680
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Tom I think the electric grill goes to the outdoor plug above the passenger side propane door.
AND I DON’T HAVE A SMOKE DETECTOR BATTERY EITHER!!!
unreal
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2016 North Point 341RLTS
520watts of solar. Morningstar MPPT
4 6volt 235ah Surrette batteries
2017 F-350 Platinum CC SRW
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07-27-2018, 09:49 PM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Houston
Posts: 42
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Originally Posted by Magnolia Tom
I could get mine even colder Darin. It was cold enough at 72 [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]
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That’s just a pipe dream!
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2017 North Point 377 RLBH
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07-27-2018, 09:55 PM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Houston
Posts: 42
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Originally Posted by Dskyward
Oh wow, that is amazing to hear. This past week we saw 104 in Llano, where our homebase will be located and our rig will be parked under the shop shed. I’m hoping our two ac’s will be able to keep the rig cool in the heat when the time comes. Here’s a view of the floor plan and aerial layout of the property which will include two extra RV pads for friends and family: Attachment 42529Attachment 42530Attachment 42531
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If your parking under a shed that should help a lot. In Vegas we are in total sun. No shade at all. You should have no problem.
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2017 North Point 377 RLBH
2015 F350 6.7TD SRW
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07-27-2018, 09:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Full timing in the 377, but Llano, Texas is now home
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Thanks for the pep talk. I have my fingers crossed!
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2007 Dodge Ram 3500 Laramie MC 4x2 DRW 6.7CTD, B&W Companion Slider 3405, Edge Evolution CS (deleted DPF/DOC-special tune), TireMinder TM-77, Firestone air springs, CustomFlow tailgate, Tonnosport tonneau cover, Champion 3100w genset
2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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07-27-2018, 10:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Magnolia
Posts: 4,841
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klassic
Tom I think the electric grill goes to the outdoor plug above the passenger side propane door.
AND I DON’T HAVE A SMOKE DETECTOR BATTERY EITHER!!!
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Thanks Klassic. I’ll check it out
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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07-27-2018, 10:10 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Magnolia
Posts: 4,841
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Originally Posted by atsacco
That’s just a pipe dream!
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My motto is building dreams! Come on over and we’ll get you cool! Lol!
....my other motto is pics or it didn’t happen [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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07-27-2018, 10:11 PM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Houston
Posts: 42
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Originally Posted by Magnolia Tom
My motto is building dreams! Come on over and we’ll get you cool! Lol!
....my other motto is pics or it didn’t happen [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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You laugh I may take you up on that I live in the willowbrook area!!
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2015 F350 6.7TD SRW
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07-27-2018, 10:14 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Magnolia
Posts: 4,841
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atsacco
You laugh I may take you up on that I live in the willowbrook area!!
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Just down the road from me! I’m going to be helping out another member install one on his. Maybe we can get yours done too. If you got your trailer from Lone star, talk to Scott in parts. He got me the AC, chill grill and t-stat to match my bedroom unit.
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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07-27-2018, 10:20 PM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Houston
Posts: 42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia Tom
Just down the road from me! I’m going to be helping out another member install one on his. Maybe we can get yours done too. If you got your trailer from Lone star, talk to Scott in parts. He got me the AC, chill grill and t-stat to match my bedroom unit.
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I’ll have to call him when we get back home, we still have another week at jelly stone at canyon lake. I hope to god it is cooler than in Vegas!!
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07-27-2018, 10:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Magnolia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atsacco
I’ll have to call him when we get back home, we still have another week at jelly stone at canyon lake. I hope to god it is cooler than in Vegas!!
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Sure can’t be any hotter! Lol.
Safe travels on you way back
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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07-30-2018, 06:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Full timing in the 377, but Llano, Texas is now home
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Uh oh! After 15k miles, my Sailun S637s have ugly wear on all the shoulders. I’ve wrote here last year, at 5900 miles, about the shoulder drop off inside and oustside, and was occurring on all four tires. But now, it’s getting extreme with harsh wear irregularities. Trailer still tows beautifully. All tires were spin balanced.
This is the driver side front lead tire.
I can’t imagine this could all from tire scrubbing from left and right turn maneuvering on asphalt. But from wear charts, this looks textbook for too low pressure. But it’s certainly not even. At first I was running 85 psi, then after upgrading to metal valve stems, 110psi. Then after much conversing with a Sailun rep, ha! exactly a year ago today in my records, he advised me to keep 70-75 psi cold due to the 12100 lbs wt on the trailer axles. He also said that my rims are 6” width and should be 6.5” and that’s why I’m seeing the balloon effect or shoulder drop off. So I reset them to 85 psi cold, towed thousands of miles and now they’re at 82 psi cold and heat up to 93-4 psi hot at 65 mph.
Anyone know what’s really happening here?
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2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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07-30-2018, 08:02 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Palmetto
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I agree it looks like a low pressure problem. Maybe to late but I think I would pump them up to a least a 100 and see if the middle would wear.
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07-30-2018, 09:05 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Full timing in the 377, but Llano, Texas is now home
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On straight road, the shoulders don’t touch the surface at all, about 3/4” from both edges. Seems quite strange to have all these various rub outs. I certainly wanna believe increasing the pressure is the way to go. I turned the rig over to Jayco today for last warranty work, so It’ll have to wait until I get it back.
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2007 Dodge Ram 3500 Laramie MC 4x2 DRW 6.7CTD, B&W Companion Slider 3405, Edge Evolution CS (deleted DPF/DOC-special tune), TireMinder TM-77, Firestone air springs, CustomFlow tailgate, Tonnosport tonneau cover, Champion 3100w genset
2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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07-31-2018, 06:34 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: St. Hedwig, TX
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I have those too on this 16 I just bought. I have put 300 miles on them. Don't know when they were put on the trailer, date codes are ##17 so fairly new. I have one that is wearing lightly on the shoulder. Weird enough its on the dining slide which is lighter. Air is just above 100 and I have rotated them in a X pattern. All bearings are freshly packed etc.
With low pressure I would expect to see full wear on the sides and less in the middle and opposite with high pressure. I would think a smaller width wheel would make the tire taller in the middle not spreading the tire as flat as possible. So opposite what the tire guy said, dskyward.
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07-31-2018, 06:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Missouri City, The Republic of Texas
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That is odd looking wear. Looks like the outer tread ribs have been attacked with a grinder. Something is really scrubbing away at the shoulders and it looks like it’s happening to all 4 tires pretty much equally.
Some kind of alignment issue causing your 5th to dance side to side slightly as it goes down the road?
Tire belts coming loose and causing them to “creep” as they roll making the shoulders pucker?
Do you rotate the tires side to side? I think early radials didn’t like changing sides.
Really strange, let us know if you find the cause.
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2013 F-350 CC SB 2WD 6.7PS
2013 Eagle Premier 351 RLTS
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07-31-2018, 07:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Blue Bell
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If the wear is only happening on the outside rib, that would suggest too much positive camber.
A low pressure situation should cause wear on inside and outside rib, as the center bows in due to underinflation, leaving the sidewalls to do most of the carrying.
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Just outside Philly
2018 377RLBH
2019 Ford F450 Platinum
Old Faithful: 2004 GMC Sierra 3500 Diesel Dually
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07-31-2018, 01:02 PM
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#2518
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Full timing in the 377, but Llano, Texas is now home
Posts: 842
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHorse1
That is odd looking wear. Looks like the outer tread ribs have been attacked with a grinder. Something is really scrubbing away at the shoulders and it looks like it’s happening to all 4 tires pretty much equally.
Some kind of alignment issue causing your 5th to dance side to side slightly as it goes down the road?
Tire belts coming loose and causing them to “creep” as they roll making the shoulders pucker?
Do you rotate the tires side to side? I think early radials didn’t like changing sides.
Really strange, let us know if you find the cause.
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I’ve not rotated any of the tires since new. Those first two pictures are the same lead driver tire. I first saw that ‘triangular slice’ on the inside passenger rear at arrival of last campsite (Jul 20)when putting on my wheel covers, and thought what the hells this? That same RR tire was repaired on Jun 1 for a 1/2” bolt puncture I ran over in Lumberton TX crossing a RR track on Memorial Day. I knew about the shoulder cove wear, but I did not see any bad spots when I watched the guy turn and repair it, nor did he bring to my attention any such, as a brand new Sailun was right there on hand in case the puncture was unserviceable. FWIW- that was a $20 repair instead of $175, and it has held perfect air since (or 1144 miles). Then yesterday, leaving for Jayco Service, I saw the terrible wear on the inside front driver. I confirmed all four tires are getting this crazy gouging wear pattern. Jayco will have it for the next couple weeks or so and I’ll be sure and air them up to 105 psi.
The main thing I wish to point out here in this mystery, is that with pressure at 85 psi early on, only the middle four ribs made road contact, evident when I pull into a stop and see the white powder in the parking lot absent on the inner and outer 1/2” or so of all four tires.
However, a crazy thought scenario- what about severe chucking as we hit some ugly highway rhythmic bouncing during our Michigan trip, which was like riding a horse? As the camper is bouncing and rocking up and down could the outer shoulders scrub on the downward stroke?
Tom? you getting anything like this on your Sailuns? How many miles do you have on your set?
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2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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07-31-2018, 02:01 PM
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#2519
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Magnolia
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Tom? you getting anything like this on your Sailuns? How many miles do you have on your set?[/QUOTE]
I have some wear on the outside of mine but nothing like yours. I have something like 10-11k miles on mine.
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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07-31-2018, 02:11 PM
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#2520
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Full timing in the 377, but Llano, Texas is now home
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What pressure are you running them?
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2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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