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Old 11-25-2015, 07:33 AM   #41
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Another factor to consider that may assist you to determine what type of tow vehicle to get. Remember "Matchbox" and "Hot wheels" toys were primarily Ford vehicles. The purpose of that was to get one used to pushing them at a early age!!!!!
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I only pull it 5 times a year and its mostly flat ground. I just wonder if it will feel a lot more stable than my 150. My ecoboost will drag it any where.
If that is the case then why change? I am considering going to a 2500HD with a durmax in the near future but that is only because of how my wife and I plan on traveling. We are planning long trips all over. We went out west this year (Black Hills, Yellowstone, Tetons etc...) and while the truck I have pulled the trailer ok, it was working very hard all the time and it wasn't very relaxing.

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Old 11-25-2015, 09:17 AM   #43
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In my situation, there is no choice... I would love to have a Duramax, but can't afford it - the $10K difference for the used diesel equivalent to my truck would have meant I couldn't afford a TT... then I would have no reason for the diesel... For some of us, you have to compromise when it comes to both the TT and the TV just to be able to camp. I always consider that it could be worse - we could be tent camping out of the back of a minivan...

Edit - when I posted this, I pulled the thread from -> and didn't realize it was in the 5er subforum... still applies to some degree though.
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If you can do it with a 1/2 ton I would always consider that before a gas 3/4 ton. It's cheaper both in cost and ownership, also the market for a used gas 1/2 is always solid. You can't give away gas 3/4 tons.
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Hummmmmm, are you FORD guys going to let my previous post slide by with no comment?

I think the thread drifted from that of the original question and I don't have a answer. I would think the hitch is somewhat generic, meaning that regardless of what tow vehicle you go to, one can easily move the hitch from one truck to another.

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You can't give away gas 3/4 tons.
When shopping for a clean used 2500 with reasonable miles I found the opposite to be true. Had to travel 2 hours from home to get what I wanted. The crew cabs in particular were few and far between. There were quite a few 3/4`s that were pretty much used up with 200-300K miles on them. But everybody seemed to have 1/2 tons on their lots, I suppose simply because there are so many more built.
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Old 11-25-2015, 02:08 PM   #47
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When shopping for a clean used 2500 with reasonable miles I found the opposite to be true. (snip). The crew cabs in particular were few and far between. There were quite a few 3/4`s that were pretty much used up with 200-300K miles on them. But everybody seemed to have 1/2 tons on their lots, I suppose simply because there are so many more built.
x2 I looked a a ton of high mileage, beat up, rusted lumps of junk before I found a clean, used 2500.
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I dont believe that there is such a thing as having too much truck!!! A 250 has heavier frame, brakes and all components are heavier. That translates into a safer truck when towing. Gas will clearly get the job done but as someone else said, that 6.7 diesel will spoil you!!! My 5th wheel weighs in at 11000 lbs.. I have a 2011 F250 with the diesel. Absolutely the best truck I have ever have owned!!! Have a 350 diesel 2016 to be built in Dec. of this year. The current truck is far from needing replaced. The reason that I went with the 350 in 2016 was that I am afraid that with all the changes that Ford has coming in 2017, I might not like it as well as the current model. Went with the 350 because the present 250 squats a little and I bumped up for a little more payload.
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All the changes Ford is making for 2017 will finally get them caught up with Ram and Chevy. Namely the fully boxed frame, the Super Duties have been riding around on a flexible frame for far too long.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:59 AM   #50
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Another factor to consider that may assist you to determine what type of tow vehicle to get. Remember "Matchbox" and "Hot wheels" toys were primarily Ford vehicles. The purpose of that was to get one used to pushing them at a early age!!!!!
Not saying I agree, since they all need pushed eventually, but that was hilarious!
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All the changes Ford is making for 2017 will finally get them caught up with Ram and Chevy. Namely the fully boxed frame, the Super Duties have been riding around on a flexible frame for far too long.
Probably why Ford has and has had the lions share of the market for the last 20 years!!
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The only reason I wouldn't consider a Ford is the constant change to the Diesel engine. I own a GMC 2500 and I think the Ford is by far the most Rugged, best looking truck of all of the HD's. I do however love the ride of my GMC better than the other HD's and the power train is solid and proven. I try to like the Dodge and you can't knock a Cummins product, but then they do something like putting fake vents on the hood. Also can they please do something with their tow mirrors!! They look like something from the early 90's.
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i agree on the engine issue. Ford also realized that they had to make a change from International engines which were very problematic. They went back and designed and built there own engine which is what the 6.7 engine is now. It's been there since 2010. Has proven to be a excellent engine. I had a 2005 F250 with the 6.0 in it and with all the issues Ford was having with it, I jumped ship and got a 2008 duramax. Thru my own stupidity, I bought a work truck crew cab. The engine was fine but the body had NO insulation in it. Noisiest damn truck I was ever was near. Heard ever stone that you ran over. Couldn't wait to unload that truck. Bought the 2011 F250 and had the most power and smartest transmission I have ever been around. Thats why I want another just like it before they make big changes that may or may not be to my liking.
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Probably why Ford has and has had the lions share of the market for the last 20 years!!
I own a Ford so I am not bashing, just stating the truth about the SD chassis. My 02 F350 had so much frame flex that absolutely dreaded towing with it. I feel much better towing with my '14 F150.

And a manufacturer can have a huge following but still produce a sub standard product. Some of the world's best quality product are not very popular.
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The present F250 has 72000 miles on it. The vast majority of that mileage has been towing something. Either a fifth wheel or a 20 ft. Flat bed and I can honestly say that frame flex issues have not been an problem. I have seen Dodge commercials with one wheel hanging in the air and showing how the tail gate would bind on a Ford. If I have my truck in that kind of condition, trust me. Frame flex will not be a high priority. The wreck that I just had will be!!
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If I have my truck in that kind of condition, trust me. Frame flex will not be a high priority. The wreck that I just had will be!!

Haha. Nailed it
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One thing this thread has proven is we all have our own opinions, whether it is a new truck, or a new trailer/5th wheeler, motor home, etc. The main thing is that we each are happy with our purchase. I went with the 2015 ram 2500 with the 6.7L Cummins and I could not be happier. This truck rides like a new car and is extremely quiet compared to the older diesels. It list for $59,000 and I purchased it for $48,000. $10,000 less than a comparably equipped Ford. My mileage is fantastic as I'm getting 15 pulling and 20 plus driving around. Diesel prices are around $2.25 a gallon around here and I'm just flat out Happy as Hell! That is what matters to each of us!
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We too have recently bought a new Ram 2500 and couldn't be happier. The Cummins diesel is worth its weight in gold as it has no problem towing our new 9,500 lbs trailer up steep hills. And, the mileage is also good during both towing and not. We think it was a good investment and know that it will serve us well in the long run.


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One thing this thread has proven is we all have our own opinions, whether it is a new truck, or a new trailer/5th wheeler, motor home, etc. The main thing is that we each are happy with our purchase. I went with the 2015 ram 2500 with the 6.7L Cummins and I could not be happier. This truck rides like a new car and is extremely quiet compared to the older diesels. It list for $59,000 and I purchased it for $48,000. $10,000 less than a comparably equipped Ford. My mileage is fantastic as I'm getting 15 pulling and 20 plus driving around. Diesel prices are around $2.25 a gallon around here and I'm just flat out Happy as Hell! That is what matters to each of us!
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