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Old 10-12-2016, 01:03 PM   #1
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Northpoint Generator

It looks like the Northpoints have switched to LP generators from the factory.

They now have a "120lb Max LP System". Has anyone seen this in person? Where are the propane tanks?

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Old 10-12-2016, 01:37 PM   #2
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We just ordered a 377rlbh and we're thinking of adding Gen prep. There are 2-30lb tanks on one side of passthrough and 1 spare on the other. They must upgrade the tanks to 3-40 pounders.
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Old 10-12-2016, 06:55 PM   #3
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That's right 3 40# tanks.

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Old 10-12-2016, 07:27 PM   #4
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So what's the consensus, is that a good change, bad, or it depends?


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Old 10-12-2016, 08:13 PM   #5
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I've heard that LP generators are fuel hogs. I have a Northpoint with the Onan 5500 watt. It may be a fuel hog, but with a residential refrigerator I use very little propane other than for heat and cooking. Trying to fuel my generator is a pain. The spout is next to the generator and requires opening the compartment door. When attached to the truck I can't open the door far enough to get a fuel nozzle in. When trying to fill from a gas can, it is hard to tilt the can far enough to pour the fuel in. I finally bought a fuel transfer pump which will work, although slowly. I wish I could change to propane for a reasonable amount.

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Old 10-12-2016, 08:19 PM   #6
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Kind of stinks imo if they only offer LP now. I prefer a gas only genset since you can easily refuel. What's up with going to LP? They did offer a fuel tank (gasoline). I understand the cleaner burning, less issues, less power on LP and such, but I can refuel my set up anywhere, or with a 2 gal gas can. Much easier than a 40# LP tank.
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Old 10-13-2016, 09:23 AM   #7
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Ive been reading some posts in other forums. Sounds like it all depends on the situation (I have zero experience, just summarizing what I've read):

LP is easier to maintain because gas doesn't go bad over time. Carburetors don't gum up. It's used up more quickly than gas though and doesn't provide as much energy per gallon. May be better suited to emergency or casual use. LP keeps things simple since you have just one fuel type. However if you run out, your appliances run out too. Cleaner burn (but of course produces CO). May come with bigger tanks, so less refilling when you aren't using the generator.

Gas tank in North Point seems inconveniently located and hard to fill.
Gasoline produces more energy, and so lasts longer. Better suited for longer term, regular or heavy use. Gas is readily available.

There you have it...from somebody who has never used one and has no practical experience :-)





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I found a great little siphon pump and it solved the gas refueling problem. It's the bellows manual type pump but it works great. It will transfer 3 gal a min.
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I've heard that LP generators are fuel hogs. I have a Northpoint with the Onan 5500 watt. It may be a fuel hog, but with a residential refrigerator I use very little propane other than for heat and cooking. Trying to fuel my generator is a pain. The spout is next to the generator and requires opening the compartment door. When attached to the truck I can't open the door far enough to get a fuel nozzle in. When trying to fill from a gas can, it is hard to tilt the can far enough to pour the fuel in. I finally bought a fuel transfer pump which will work, although slowly. I wish I could change to propane for a reasonable amount.

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Same problem with servicing as you have. What's messed up is that I thought when I ordered mine that it was SUPPOSED to be LP, but when it showed up, the dealer was "nah, they wouldn't put an LP version in there as it doesn't provide the power that the gas unit does..." Trying to get him to see that 5500 watts is 5500 watts was giving me brain damage... So I stuck with what Jayco installed.

I can't say I regret it, but servicing is a pain in the neck! I've been thinking of modifying the door so that there's a second door for access to the filler neck. Anybody know of any mods out there where a second door could be cut into the larger access door?
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Mine is the same way. I also bought the battery powered pump to make filling easier. I use regular unleaded than switch to premium non ethanol for the last couple of fills with startron stabilizer.
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Ultimately, they say the secret is to actually USE the generator in order to SAVE the generator.
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I plan on running it two hours a month but having non ethanol gas and a stabilizer will keep carb in good shape. All my lawn stuff runs on ethanol free gas and it sits for months with out a problem
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Same here, plus putting a load on both phases of output
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I have the gas 5500 and absolutely love it. It has 358 hours on it so far in just over 6 years. It lives on non-ethanol gas 99% of the time and I put Stabil Marine Formula in each tank regardless of ethanol or non. I also run it for 1 full hour/month with a load on it and I NEVER miss doing this. The oil/filter is changed every fall and the air filter was changed last year.

I have a bad enough back that 30 lb lp tanks are enough for me. I wouldn't ever want 40 lb and if that is the amount of lp it takes to keep the 5500 happy I will definitely stick with the gas version.

For filling the onboard gas tank I use a TeraPump TRHA01 Battery Operated 2AA Pump. It works great and is $20.00 on Amazon or it was when I bought mine.
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With three 40lb tanks in the new LP setup, how does refilling work? Would you have to remove the bottles to have them filled?


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I like the IDEA you presented on your fuel transfer...can you provide more detail, I would like to purchase same.

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So how difficult/expensive would it be to convert from gas to propane?

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Why would u want to convert to propane. If u r using it just fill it with regular gas. Than the last two tanks run non ethanol with a stabilizer and u r good to go. Just crank it up monthly and run for 1 or two hours. I have to laugh became mine has been at two different dealers over half its life and they do not run it. I just have to wonder why it is not a diesel motor. Have u seen a gas pump at the flying j truck pumps. And diesel is the most efficient in run time.
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Hey all, I'm new to the forum. My wife and I are planning to purchase a 377RLBH in the next couple of months. We have been discussing getting the Onan 5500 built in generator as we currently have two of the Honda EU2000's and I feel confident they will not provide enough power. I talked to the dealer and they gave me what I feel is a ridiculous price for the generator at $6,200 plus tax installed, and suggested gas vs propane since it is already prepped for gas. My question is does this price seem a little steep? And if it is prepped for gas how difficult would it be to change it over to propane? Thanks.
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If it has the prep buy one and put it in. Pretty much plug and play since all wiring and transfer switch is there.
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