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08-19-2015, 09:09 PM
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Possible fading cap resolution
So Jayco turned my repair down what next? I remembered talking with a "polisher" in a truck stop who gave up his secret sauce recipe, good for metal and fiberglass. Out to the shop for a stick of polishing compound left from when I owner a big rig. Next break off a piece and place in a jar of mineral spirits. (About 1/4-1/3 or the bat to about 8oz of fluid) Let dissolve over night and shake well. Apply with a soft rag rubbing a small area and let dry to a haze. Buff off with a soft rag ..... looks like it will take 3-4 hours to do the entire area. The compound Jewelers rouge available at most truck stops in several grits (colors), I used white. Wax well when done. Looks better we'll see how long it lasts. Under $20 buck maybe I can sell the repair to Jayco if they are paying 1800 to repair, likely under $200 if I go to a truck stop and look for a polisher.
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08-20-2015, 06:17 AM
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Nice !
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08-20-2015, 07:51 AM
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You can do mine next!
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08-20-2015, 09:39 AM
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Sorry but it won't last. If you have it, it never goes away. It's an inherent defect in the gel coat. It's not brand specific. Just Google fading RV front caps. It will return. The only time you will get a fading gel coat to stay shiny is when it's faded after many years. Not 1-2 years. If it's fading in a short time then it means it's a pi$$ poor gel coat job. The faded gel coat that fades after many years are faded because of many years in the sun. They can be returned to a nice shine because the gel coat process was done right. What we're seeing with these faded caps is the result of a couple companies that provided caps, mostly dark colored, that either had a bad supplier for their gel coat materials or it's the result of using dark colors. Jayco switched to the lighter front caps and I also know that Northwood Mfg also switched to a lighter front cap on the Arctic Fox and Fox Mountain lines. You can go to the Northwood forum and read about their faded caps as well. All this buffing out to restore the shine needs to be done many times during the year. That's not supposed to be necessary. Think about this. The sides of your 5er are also gel coated. They aren't fading. It's nothing more than a couple years of poor quality gel coated caps in the wrong colors that's causing the fading.
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08-20-2015, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goducks
Sorry but it won't last. If you have it, it never goes away. It's an inherent defect in the gel coat. It's not brand specific. Just Google fading RV front caps. It will return. The only time you will get a fading gel coat to stay shiny is when it's faded after many years. Not 1-2 years. If it's fading in a short time then it means it's a pi$$ poor gel coat job. The faded gel coat that fades after many years are faded because of many years in the sun. They can be returned to a nice shine because the gel coat process was done right. What we're seeing with these faded caps is the result of a couple companies that provided caps, mostly dark colored, that either had a bad supplier for their gel coat materials or it's the result of using dark colors. Jayco switched to the lighter front caps and I also know that Northwood Mfg also switched to a lighter front cap on the Arctic Fox and Fox Mountain lines. You can go to the Northwood forum and read about their faded caps as well. All this buffing out to restore the shine needs to be done many times during the year. That's not supposed to be necessary. Think about this. The sides of your 5er are also gel coated. They aren't fading. It's nothing more than a couple years of poor quality gel coated caps in the wrong colors that's causing the fading.
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Yep I agree it's a factory issue but I really take care of my rigs and this looks like crap. Jayco has already said they will not fix mine, I bought it use so I am the second owner. I hope it will last several months and won't be as bad as it is now. I know the area is an issue so I'll watch it closely. I'm in New Mexico with lots of sun but the trailer lives in an RV carport at the house.
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08-20-2015, 03:24 PM
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Second owner or not I think they should fix this as it seems to be an ongoing problem with the dark colors, not just a one time deal.
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08-20-2015, 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crabman
Second owner or not I think they should fix this as it seems to be an ongoing problem with the dark colors, not just a one time deal.
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I would thinks so also, if for nothing more than not having an all most new unit looking like crap. How old is your Jayco? Just over a year.
Bunch of these running around what GREAT ADVERTISEMENT - Jayco Eagle - fade
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08-21-2015, 09:08 AM
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Wife and I were on a 1 week trip several weeks ago. I think I counted 3 Keystone Cougars with horribly faded grey front caps.
FWIW painting is the way to go. From what I gather at least here in Oregon is you can get a cap painted for around $850-1100.00. It will never fad again. All truck caps are painted and they stay nice looking for years. I had a 1994 Ford Ranger that I put a Tonneau cover on and it looked nice for 10 years. And that's sitting outside all the time.
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08-21-2015, 09:24 AM
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Last week in Helena, MT the guy next to me had a 2014 Arctic Fox 5er (a very large 5er). He had a fading front cap and said the factory would not do anything with his either.
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08-21-2015, 09:38 AM
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Why did Jayco turn you down?
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08-21-2015, 12:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by godawgs
Why did Jayco turn you down?
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Only the first owners covered by the two year.
Scenario: I'm rich (mine was owner by a DR prior) and I buy my new 5er drive it a few months and decide it's not for me and trade in in for a ???.
It's now not covered .................... this is exactly where I'm at.
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08-24-2015, 04:08 PM
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More buffing this AM and it's starting to look good again. Before I wax does anyone have experience with this or a similar product? Aerosol spray clear coat.
Spray Max 1K Clearcoat, Aerosol - 3680058
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08-24-2015, 05:22 PM
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You might find this of interest:
Spray Max Clear Coat & Primer Review
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08-24-2015, 05:38 PM
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If you can find a polish that's UV resistant, it might prevent further fading.
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08-24-2015, 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Murff
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Thanks great info. I wonder if this isn't too large a project for the two part stuff, they are doing RC stuff an MC helmets. With the long dry times it just might be doable.
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