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03-28-2016, 06:52 PM
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Thanks BigJohnD,
I'm hoping for a quick and easy fix... Whatever it is... Wood, luan, metal, Aluminum etc, it does appears to be stressing the rubber roof even more now... Need to get Fixed it penetrates roof layer... I'm hoping to get the RV in for repairs when we return from our current trip on April 20th...
Hoping for a clear day on Wednesday to take some progress pics I.e more stress on the rubber
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03-28-2016, 07:56 PM
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Some put a strip of tape of their choice over the staples, but who knows when they built it. Pretty common to see what AZ posted though. Doesn't make it right. Definitely will be a problem down the road, or could be. On mine, it wasn't the staples, but the end of some of the radius molding sticking up. Wasn't secured so well.
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03-29-2016, 04:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJohnD
Are we referring to the same aluminum radius molding at the edge? That is in fact aluminum stapled to the roof plywood then the sidewall. TPO roof is then wrapped over that and secured with side molding. Take one apart and you'll see. Almost every manf. uses the same concept.
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Here is what this edge looked like after my roof luan was replaced prior to the RV Flex Armor installation.
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04-10-2016, 04:30 PM
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I am glad I came across this post. My trailer has been at the dealer since Nov 6. We went there yesterday to see why it is taking so long, thats another story. When we took it there one of the items the dealer was supposed to have done was aroof inspection. I decided to look at the roof myself and I have the same problem. I also noticed what looks like a couple of "screws" that have backed out and are really stressing the roof material. All this after the dealer had completed the roof inspection and said it was good. We pointed this out to the service tech that was working and he said he will talk to our service rep tomorrow sice he didn't know anythig about what was going on. I guess the bottom line is look at it yourself and then point it out to the dealer. Ours is a 2015 fbts.
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04-10-2016, 06:17 PM
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Redoing the aluminum mooing on our last rig took way less than a day. We've had screws come up on others in the last too. On the screws, I just made a small slit, removed the screw, coated with construction adhesive, reinstalled, put a small square of eternabond over it and coated with the proguard coating. Wasn't worth pulling the whole roof for 2-3 screws, nor was it worth the fuel money to tow it to a dealer to do the same thing.
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04-19-2016, 10:46 AM
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I took pictures of my roof and sent them to Jayco. They said this was a aproblem that needs to be repaired. My dealer said that almost all trailers have this issue and it is not a big deal and does not need to be repaired. We brought our trailer home and went for a weekend outing. There happened to be another Jayco dealer nearby. I went there, showed him the pictures and got the same response that it is no big deal and don't worry about it. No repairs needed. Now I am not sure what to do.
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04-19-2016, 09:29 PM
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We're new owner of a 2016 north point 377RLBH at delivery I notice the same roof problem described in this post. Any advice or suggestion?
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04-20-2016, 07:29 AM
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Fetz
That does not look good at all. Even AZs unit looked good when he first got it. Mine also looked fine in Nov. I just have some small spots and now what I think is a screw backing out. I am real interested to see what is under the TPO that is lifting like that and why. I looked over my roof real good at my PDI and the only stuff I found was small wrinkles around the vents and a spot by the ladder that needed sealant. Now that it is hotter here in Fl the small lifting spots I have seem to have flattened out some.
Rock
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04-20-2016, 11:07 AM
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No more than what edatlanta posted. Plywood is laid, radius molding goes on over where the roof / sidewall meet and is secured with staples. You see pieces of the molding edge and some staples. A combination of movement, expansion / contraction, and just plain not secured very well causes it. Looks like they never taped the joint either where the molding is stapled. The faster they build them as demand continues to increase, the more shoddy crap you're gonna see.
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04-21-2016, 04:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJohnD
No more than what edatlanta posted. Plywood is laid, radius molding goes on over where the roof / sidewall meet and is secured with staples. You see pieces of the molding edge and some staples. A combination of movement, expansion / contraction, and just plain not secured very well causes it. Looks like they never taped the joint either where the molding is stapled. The faster they build them as demand continues to increase, the more shoddy crap you're gonna see.
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It obviously isn't a solution to rubber roof issues for everyone due to cost, etc. But rubber roofs will never ever be owned by me again, except for the time it takes to get it from the dealer to a RV Flex Armor installer.
I give absolutely no thought to my roof now except to wash it off occasionally. and caulk? What is that used for? Certainly not on my roof anywhere.
To me any rubber roof is a disaster waiting to happen. Not IF but WHEN.
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04-21-2016, 06:48 AM
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To me it would have seemed more logical for the aluminum roll on side to have a 1/8 inch step and actually have tucked under the luan with the step making it even. Then tape the seam and finally put the rubber roof on
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05-03-2016, 09:00 PM
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Location: Queen Creek
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Update
Hello All,
Our RV is at the dealer (for over a week already) and the factory is waiting on assessment to authorize appropriate repairs.
Unsure of the extent of repairs needed, but as of this point, I'm truly impressed with Jayco's response to our concerns.
Based on Pictures I took just before taking RV to the dealer, the roof did appear to be getting worse and extended full length on both sides with the rubber roof becoming further separated (as shown in Fetz pics below). Not what I would expect from a 6 month old RV!
I'll update the thread once I'm notified of the factories recommended repair action.
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05-03-2016, 09:38 PM
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Hopefully AZ you can get to see how it was put together with the membrane off and give a report here.
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05-04-2016, 03:23 AM
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We all will be watching this. What is the outcome on your floor issue? Mine is at another dealer getting cap repair done. Sanded down to primer but all the gouges need to be fixed before repaint. They now estimate about 4K to repair cap and side scrapes
Rock
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05-04-2016, 04:56 AM
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I'm looking at the pictures here of the roof issues. Mine seems some what different. I do have some pronounced areas and wrinkling. But mostly cupping in that lifting area all the way from rear to front. I did get approval for repair but dealer said he can't do the repair at his facility. Jayco says they need to peel the outer edge up and re secure metal trim. I find it hard to believe that's all it needs to repair this but it's all new to me. So calling Jayco back to see who's going to do the repair.
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05-04-2016, 07:18 AM
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Looks weird without decals
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06-02-2016, 10:43 AM
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I'm curious to find out if Jayco is/has taken care of your problem with the roof? I have the same issue with my 2016 North Point. Picked it up in October and just found the problem after reading your thread. We have been very pleased otherwise and have used the camper several weekends this past winter and spring in northern Michigan.
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06-02-2016, 10:49 AM
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Yes, we're schedule for Oct 19-24 in Middleburg. We're taken back to them to repair the problems ( 24 issues ) we just purchase the trailer in end of April. The dealer here (Vancouver Island not have the facilty to repair)/
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06-02-2016, 10:57 AM
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Thank you! This is the only problem so far thankfully. I was pretty impressed how it did over the winter. We may end up back to the factory for something this serious. Good luck
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06-02-2016, 01:30 PM
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Hello This forum has helped me pick-up on some of the issues. Still keeping a eye on these issues on our trip to the factory and Mexico beach for the winter . So we'll give the unit a really good try-out (10,000 miles plus). All the best
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