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Old 09-29-2016, 11:11 AM   #21
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I have a slightly shorter rig with only the 4 point system so my rears are right behind the rear tires. I just went and looked and I don't think I would be able to have jacks on the rear of my trailer either.

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Old 10-18-2016, 11:23 AM   #22
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Can you measure the clearance from the ground to the plate on your jacks?
Mine are low too, but don't think they are too low.......
I can't post pictures from here, but I've got about 6.25 inches of clearance on the rear jacks when I'm hooked up and they have made contact on several occasions on the slightest of inclines.

When I'm hooked up, the digital read out on the auto leveling system shows 1.3 degrees of tilt from front to back (nose high). I'm not sure how to convert that into inches, but I know that I'm nose high.

I'm seriously considering just flipping the axles and taking my chances with the warranty on the axles and suspension. It is just too stressful even pulling into a filling station at this point wondering if I'm going to rip the jacks off the back end.
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:17 PM   #23
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I can't post pictures from here, but I've got about 6.25 inches of clearance on the rear jacks when I'm hooked up and they have made contact on several occasions on the slightest of inclines.

When I'm hooked up, the digital read out on the auto leveling system shows 1.3 degrees of tilt from front to back (nose high). I'm not sure how to convert that into inches, but I know that I'm nose high.

I'm seriously considering just flipping the axles and taking my chances with the warranty on the axles and suspension. It is just too stressful even pulling into a filling station at this point wondering if I'm going to rip the jacks off the back end.
Yeah, that's an issue for sure. If you were to want to figure it out the simplest way would be to unhook and set your nose to the 1.3 degrees high. Measure from pin to ground. Level and then measure again and calculate the difference. This would give you some rough idea how far out you are. But even with that the backend isn't going to raise by any order of significant magnitude. Or you could play around with some trig functions on your calculator... and guestimate the length or some triangles and rotation points.

If I were in your situation, I'd flip the axles and take my chances. I've flipped them on my AF and on a WW toy hauler. It never even occurred to me there could be an issue with warranty. Even at that, it would take a fairly astute dealer to determine they were flipped and then be able to prove that caused said unlikely issue. I mean if your fridge goes out or the water heater quits or you have an issue with a roof failure it's a pretty big leap to deny coverage based on an axle flip. In fact, I can't really thing of anything that it would affect.

The positives outweigh the negatives because with those rear stabs so low it's only a matter of time.

It was something that never occurred to me as I only have the 4 point system so my rears are where your mids are. I would be in the exact same situation if I had jacks on the far rear of the trailer. In fact I don't think I could back in my normal spot.

Let us know how it turns out for you.
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Old 10-18-2016, 03:18 PM   #24
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I have a 377 on order and am in the process of ordering a 2017 F-450. I was concerned with the increased height of the new Fords and the pin height of the FW. I plan to install the Curt hitch which has a lower height setting than B&W, 13'' vs 16" from the floor of the truck bed.

But in order to have the FW level when hitched, I also would need to have the FW raised.I sent an email to my dealer to request the installation of Lippert's Correct Track kit which would raise the RV 2 inches.

My dealer called me this morning and said that the 377 has additional holes for mounting the axles/leaf springs lower which would obviously raise the entire FW.

You may want to take a look under your RV and see if you have these extra holes. If not, perhaps you could consider the correct track or even a different FW hitch that would lower the nose of your FW.
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:00 PM   #25
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The only issue I could see by flipping the axles is the trailer height on low bridges & certain garage doors. She's already pretty tall, so just make sure that wouldn't affect you!
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I have a 377 on order and am in the process of ordering a 2017 F-450. I was concerned with the increased height of the new Fords and the pin height of the FW. I plan to install the Curt hitch which has a lower height setting than B&W, 13'' vs 16" from the floor of the truck bed.

But in order to have the FW level when hitched, I also would need to have the FW raised.I sent an email to my dealer to request the installation of Lippert's Correct Track kit which would raise the RV 2 inches.

My dealer called me this morning and said that the 377 has additional holes for mounting the axles/leaf springs lower which would obviously raise the entire FW.

You may want to take a look under your RV and see if you have these extra holes. If not, perhaps you could consider the correct track or even a different FW hitch that would lower the nose of your FW.
Thanks, DMax.

My dealer did point out that there is some adjustment on the mounting brackets. At best, it looks like it would would give me an inch and a half. Jayco refereed the dealer to Lippert on this whole issue and they recommended the installation of the CorrectTrack system and said it would give me another 2 inches or so. My worry is that after all of that, it still won't be enough. Flipping the axles should give me at least 4 inches of additional clearance, which is more that either or both of those options combined. I figured it might be best just to bite the bullet and flip the axles and if that doesn't get me to where I need to be, I'll still have more clearance than if I did the CorrectTrack and used the adjustment on the mounting brackets. I'd hate to go through all of that and find out I would have to flip the axles anyway.

I'm using the Anderson Ultimate Hitch and setting at the lowest adjustment it is still at 16 3/4" off the bed. It seem that even if I could adjust it down to 13" like the Curt hitch you mentioned, the FW would be very close to the bed rails. It's definitely a balancing act with all the variables in play.

I'll keep you all posted and let you know how it turns out.
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The only issue I could see by flipping the axles is the trailer height on low bridges & certain garage doors. She's already pretty tall, so just make sure that wouldn't affect you!
That definitely crossed my mind. I guess I am figuring there are fewer of those than there are bumps, potholes, and sloped drives ways (including my own) that are going to give me problems. I'm thinking it will put me somewhere in the neighborhood of 13' 8". Pretty tall!

The other thing is that it will likely render the outdoor cook-top just about useless in most situations. My wife and I are not tall people and frying bacon and eggs was already a bit uncomfortable with the popping grease just inches from my face. Raising it 4" will require me to invest in some stilts or a step stool if I want to fry my eggs outdoors.
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:42 PM   #28
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The positives outweigh the negatives because with those rear stabs so low it's only a matter of time.
That's what I'm thinking. I wish the situation were different, but it is what it is and I'm thinking this is probably the best solution. I'll keep you posted.
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We discovered that we could in fact lower our hitch a couple notches, and that gained us a little height. Not much, but better than it was.
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We discovered that we could in fact lower our hitch a couple notches, and that gained us a little height. Not much, but better than it was.
I think mine is as low as it can go, and I'm still pretty low on the back levellers! I'm going to bring it up to my dealer next I see them!
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