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10-29-2015, 08:02 PM
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Towing vehicle
I am towing a 2015 36rsqs and the hitch weight is too heavy for my 8.1 lt 2500hd siverado. What diesel would you recommend for the 2700-2800 lb tongue weight. Don't want duellys. Are recent ford and chev 3500's okay for this axle weight?
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10-29-2015, 08:09 PM
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I think the most experienced would recommend a dually. I'm with you tho, I don't want a dually.
I have a 3500 with 4100 lbs cargo on the door sticker. I think any late model one ton truck will have the payload and towing that will work for this rig.
I believe a 3500 with a gas motor will get you there too, if you don't want the diesel... I'm of the opinion that GM, Ford and Dodge are all a gamble. Ya pick the one you like best and hope for the best. Good luck.
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10-29-2015, 08:12 PM
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I will say up front I don't know. Your best bet is going to each trucks manufacturers website. That kind of pin weight would have me looking at dually's. Are you not wanting a dually as it will be your daily driver?
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10-29-2015, 08:22 PM
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yes, and I don't want to buy that many tires when the time comes. i love the allison in my truck. I have a 2001, the first yr for them and no issues.
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10-29-2015, 08:30 PM
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Allison is a great trans. Love my '07 LBZ.
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10-29-2015, 08:33 PM
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What year is the 2500HD I have a 2007 gasser and I put a cab over in mine that weighs that much I added timbrens and rancho 9000s.
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10-29-2015, 09:25 PM
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I'm pulling a Pinnacle 38FLSA with a Duramax 2500HD... somewhere around 3000 lbs on the hitch plus a 50 gallon bed tank... would have bought a 3500 SRW (can't get a dually in the garage) had I known I was getting a 5th wheel, had a bumper pull before... 2500 and 3500 SRW share the same axle, same part number even... the springs and tires are what's different... was going to put the factory 3500 springs on but decided on adding Supersprings instead.. tires become the limiting factor, stock tires on 20" rims put you at 6,390 lbs, replacement tires brought me up to 7500 lbs... with full fuel leaves me at 600 lbs wiggle room... of course you can increase that to 10,000 lbs with 19.5 wheels and tires..
Just finished a 3500 mile trip, was really pleased with the performance and handling of the truck..
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10-29-2015, 09:32 PM
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I am towing an Eagle Premier 361REQS with a 2013 Ford F350 (diesel) and no dual rear wheels.
Measured pin weight is 3025 lbs with a full fresh water tank. Grey and black tanks were empty. The rear axle measured at 6700 lbs. The axle is rated for 7000 lbs. The rig handles very well.
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10-29-2015, 09:46 PM
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Just looked in the Owners manual for the Chevy... the 2500 is rated at 3000 lbs hitch weight for 5th wheel, 3500 SRW is 4000 lbs and dually is 5500 lbs... the sticker on door jam is cargo weight which is separate from hitch weight... everything added together needs to be less than GVW rating...
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10-30-2015, 05:24 AM
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3500 for sure due to spring package. SRW vs DRW is a personal preference, but with that kind of weight and like mine I preferr to have 4 under the load for saftey and stability reasons.
Keep in mind that the pin weight is sticker and once you load will increase by several hundred pounds. Last weight was 3300 on the pin for mine. Sticker was 2600# at time of purchase. All the storage you have is in front of the axels and mostly in basement lockers.
As for brands again it's personal, but just make sure you understand the combinations of what you can have. A 3500 is not a 3500 as it pertains to powertrain as there are many variations with what they are built with in options. At least that is the way Ram does it. This will also effect tow ratings significantly.
Once you settle on the brand go on some forums and ask around here for some input. I spent the better part of 6 months researching my current TV and glad I did as I had no idea just how many variables there were. If you are looking at used then it's even more of a hunt.
Also another part is urea vs pre urea.
Lots of variables now with diesels in the last 4-5 years.
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10-30-2015, 05:29 AM
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2007 Ram 2500 here with 5.9 CTD, SRW, short bed...Cummin's, only way to go.
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10-30-2015, 06:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevinc
I am towing a 2015 36rsqs and the hitch weight is too heavy for my 8.1 lt 2500hd siverado. What diesel would you recommend for the 2700-2800 lb tongue weight. Don't want duellys. Are recent ford and chev 3500's okay for this axle weight?
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With an almost 16,000# GVW, I'd recommend a dually, but would think that any of the NEWER (13' and up), Big Three's 3500 SRW trucks should be able to handle that GVW and pin weight. The D/A ( Allison is a medium tranny), is an awesome combo and Ram now not only offers the medium duty Cummins Diesel engine, but also a medium duty transmission with the addition of the Aisin tranny. I like the gearing better in the Allison, 3.73 as opposed to 3.42 with the Aisin in a 3500 SRW configuration. Don't know that much about the Ford...Ram has one of the best exhaust brakes I've seen.
Realistic hitch weight could easily hit 3,000#. At almost 41', I'd want a long bed, and a dually for a more stable towing experience.. I know people tow more with lessor TV's, but it doesn't make it right and doesn't mean it's the safe thing to do.
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10-30-2015, 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sailor
I am towing an Eagle Premier 361REQS with a 2013 Ford F350 (diesel) and no dual rear wheels.
Measured pin weight is 3025 lbs with a full fresh water tank. Grey and black tanks were empty. The rear axle measured at 6700 lbs. The axle is rated for 7000 lbs. The rig handles very well.
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Same setup here but I have a DRW truck. Truck barely knows the trailer is there, only feel it when you hit a bump and get a jerk on the hitch.
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10-30-2015, 02:55 PM
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We are using a 2014 GMC 3500 SRW crew cab short bed with the Duramax/Alison combo in the Denali package to tow our 2015 Pinnacle 36FBTS. Not sure how it's pin weight compares to yours but, so far experiencing very little squat. And, it pulls the 5er pretty nice. Don't think I would not want to hook up a much heavier unit to this truck with out it being a dually.
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10-30-2015, 03:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevinc
I am towing a 2015 36rsqs and the hitch weight is too heavy for my 8.1 lt 2500hd siverado. What diesel would you recommend for the 2700-2800 lb tongue weight. Don't want duellys. Are recent ford and chev 3500's okay for this axle weight?
Thanks
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You should go with this truck:
5500 SRW pick up build up w/pics - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum
It's not a dually
If you don't want to wade through 430+ posts, then take a look at post # 1, 90, 101, 128, and 138. WOW will be your only response.
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10-31-2015, 05:01 PM
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2001. I am concerned about breaking the axle or popping the tires. no problem towing the trailer weight other than slow down on big hills
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10-31-2015, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevinc
2001. I am concerned about breaking the axle or popping the tires. no problem towing the trailer weight other than slow down on big hills
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Axle should be fine, 2001 has the same axle as the 1 ton SRW... I wouldn't worry about that..
Will need an E rated (10 ply) tire for sure, get the highest load rating you can find for your rims, maybe some helper springs too.. air bags are good to bring truck level, but not really designed for load carrying.
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