Originally Posted by ALJO
I have a whole bunch of Pictures from damage frames to how they fixed things up.
Did you see the brackets what Dexter has in the kits. They are simple U-channel probably a foot long. I still would put a plate over the hole where the existing axle has been. Doboy Dawg did do a nice job welding a plate in the hole. You even can get from Norco cross members but I'm sure they are expensive.
Just search the web for the first generation Norco Ball Frame you'll find lots of info.
I'm quite familiar with the brackets. I just now order 20 foot sections of the same size channel for less then 1/3 of the cost of the kit and make my own.
I have repaired several of "pre-cross member" frames. I too stopped buying that kit also after I saw what it was and just used a brake to bend my own and dimple die cut holes just like there's to save a little weight and strengthen it. From the ones I've seen and or repaired, I don't think it's so much a bad frame design as that there being overloaded and/or there having rearend drags. Last one I saw, the owner put wheels on the rear because he was scraping the dump and busting the valves. He put so much side load on the trailer and frame trying to turn it while backing it in the driveway while it was on those wheels that it totaled the trailer. He told me that all four tires where off the ground when it let loose so you can imagine the amount of load that was on the rear of the frame. They should of never made any of these low riding frames on trailers longer the 23' if you ask me.
I'm to the point of making my own plates that will address the counter sunk locating holes that are in the Norco brackets. I have tried everywhere to find a one of those brackets to use as template. Norco tells me to talk to the manufacture, the manufacture tells me to talked to my dealer, and the local dealer (who doesnt care much for me) is useless. I've got contacts that have more pull then me that have tried and the best we can do is find new 45° down axles. I was hoping that somewhere, someone had made a drop bracket that mounts just like the manufacture mounted it. A even called Al-Ko who made the axles for Dutchman (it's a Aerolite) but there N.A. division was bought out by Dexter so they told me to contact them.
As a total side note. It seem that Norco had planed to offer the UltraFrame with leaf springs or torsion axles. The mounts huck bolted onto the frame. I've never seen any. Maybe they didn't offer them for a reason. Here's a picture from there patent application for the trailer frame. I will love to just buy a few of those #22 in there.