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Old 09-06-2016, 08:20 PM   #21
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We're very upset with the quality of our 2016 JayFlight 27RLS. Too many issues to list and some are just plain poor workmanship. I have been RV'ing all my life and understand repairs are part of the game but our experience has soured us on the brand. Not sure if I feel better reading the posts about it being a general issue across RV brands.


You need to be one of two things to successfully "RV";
1. Independently wealthy
Or
2. Handy and have common sense.

The horror stories of PDIs where little tin Gods force the tech to stay for a 4 hour PDI, and using a 7 page PDI checklist are what contribute to the "I deserve" mentality.

I dare anyone to build a tiny house with dual power systems and dual water systems, and then haul it down the road at 60 mph for less than $30k better than Jayco.

Some people just have too high expectations, and then they feel the need to complain to enthusiasts and hobbiests that enjoy the hobby.

Complain to the dealer or the manufacturer.


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Old 09-06-2016, 11:32 PM   #22
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Or is that an oxy-moron?

We have owned our 2015 Jay Flight 26RKS

The interior is made of cheap, flimsy materials all held together (barely) by tiny staples. Poor materials and poor construction.

I realize that this is not a top of the line unit and I don't expect solid hardwood and premium fasteners but I do expect that it won't fall apart while we are driving down the road.

We are looking to upgrade to a larger trailer or 5th wheel and I'm pretty sure that Jayco will not be on the list.
Well I bought the White Hawk line and I have some issues like that but where they put staples I put real nice square head screws other than that the build quality is pretty good. I have not used mine enough to know how well the materials like cushions and stuff will hold up but they seem to be stitched pretty well. I believe the jay flight series is the bottom of the line and like always in life you get what you pay for. I have seen the Eagle TT and wow what a difference but I'm not in that price range so went with the White Hawk and love it so far. I wouldn't knock Jayco unless you can get higher quality trailer somewhere else for the same price as a jay flight. I was looking at another trailer that looked exactly like the WH I bought but it was 7k more and it had SS appliances, leather seating, fancier trim, and electric stabilizer jacks. However I have a family of four with a 80lb lab so I don't need the fancy stuff but needed a well built trailer. Heck my 15 year old son is 6' with a 13 shoe size. He is bumping into everything. But with a stronger built trailer comes with a price and weight. The 25BHS weighs dry 6113lbs...so ended up getting a new truck out of the deal because the wife wanted the WH and not the ultra light models. We both win but equally broke
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:13 AM   #23
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The wife and I started with a jayco went to a forest river wildcat {it was junk} up graded to a cedar creak. {it was also junk}We are now back with jayco because of the good quality we had with are jayco. Only time will tell.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:46 AM   #24
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We looked at many if not all, at least that we can find, Motorhomes that were listing in the 145 - 160k range. For the money non of them seemed to compare to the Precept that we purchased, We have been camping for a plethora of years, so we are not new and naÔve to how coaches are built. Did we have a few issues, Yes, most were minor expect for a leak on the main slide, but Jayco took care of all of our issues, modified the bedroom door from an accordion door to a solid sliding door, paid all our expenses to and from NJ to IN, twice, I dropped our coach off in February and picked it up in May complete and ready to go. Plus, Jayco threw in an oil change and a genny service. Jayco stands behind their product, that speaks volumes for their philosophy, When we started out looking we looked at all brands within our price range, all models that fit our bill, and Jayco came out way on top.

The RV industry without a doubt has it's issues, that includes all the suppliers, the difference is how Jayco handles their customers after the sale. For me, they are outstanding.
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Old 09-07-2016, 08:41 AM   #25
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To all: Read the RV Travel Newsletter Issue 757 dated 8/27/2016. There is a good explanation on reasons why the RV consumer gets poor quality units up and down the price range. My wife and I visited the Jayco Museum at the factory. We looked at the entire Jayco line up out side the museum and saw the poor quality from top to bottom units. We knew what to look for as we own a Jayco. The above referenced item states that the number one problem is lack of quality workers due to applicants failing the drug test. It stated that Dirco Accessories manufacturing in Elkhart could fill 41 slots if a labor pool was available. This entends to the RV industry also. All RV manufacturers in Middleburg and Elkhart are in the same boat. IMHO, paying more in most cases does not translate to getting more just boosting egos in a lot of cases.

All that being said, we still enjoy hitting the road and taking our chances.

Been there done that!!!!
Hogwash! That is just typical corporate America blaming its short sited, greedy practices on it workers.

Hogwash two, that higher pay would not attract higher skilled workers. Companies/employers that pay well rarely have difficulty finding skilled workers. The company I work for has people with engineering degrees working as operators.

Fact is, the market determines quality or rather how much it will pay for quality. That means the buyer. The trailer industry is littered with companies that tried to make a higher quality product, but the demand (or willingness on the consumer's part) to pay for the quality simply is not there. Until the consumer stops buying trailer A and opts to buy higher quality (and often priced) trailer B this will not change.
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Old 09-07-2016, 01:33 PM   #26
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You need to be one of two things to successfully "RV";
1. Independently wealthy
Or
2. Handy and have common sense.

The horror stories of PDIs where little tin Gods force the tech to stay for a 4 hour PDI, and using a 7 page PDI checklist are what contribute to the "I deserve" mentality.

I dare anyone to build a tiny house with dual power systems and dual water systems, and then haul it down the road at 60 mph for less than $30k better than Jayco.

Some people just have too high expectations, and then they feel the need to complain to enthusiasts and hobbiests that enjoy the hobby.

Complain to the dealer or the manufacturer.


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2015 Jayco Jayflight 32BHDS
Yes, you're right. Multiple roof leaks, dinette completely falling apart and detaching from the floor, shower pan leaking under the floor into the TT, clothes compartment completely falling apart, slide out stopped working, wheel bearings not greased causing brakes to lock up on the freeway, flashing on outside coming off, AC vents not connected, et al... and all within the first 1000 miles, definitely must be "too high expectations".

I too am an RV enthusiast and also very handy from performing repairs on my previous 3 travel trailers. This gives me common sense and enough experience to form and share my opinion on the poor workmanship/quality on my 2016 Jayco.

Congratulations on your smug, uninformed comment...
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Old 09-07-2016, 02:26 PM   #28
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Yes, you're right. Multiple roof leaks, dinette completely falling apart and detaching from the floor, shower pan leaking under the floor into the TT, clothes compartment completely falling apart, slide out stopped working, wheel bearings not greased causing brakes to lock up on the freeway, flashing on outside coming off, AC vents not connected, et al... and all within the first 1000 miles - SNIP
The federal lemon law applies to RV's and travel trailers. If you have had that many documented problems, you should pursue your rights. Endless venting here won't get you anything... just a friendly FYI. No reply expected or needed.
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Well......... with all the negativity I am reluctant to post. That being said, I have owned 3 TTs and we just got the 3rd one, a Jayco. Prior TTs were a small Shadow Cruiser, and later a FR Surveyor. I can't say how the Jayco is yet, having only picked it up August 3 and spent only 1 night in it. As to the quality of the other 2 I'd say I got about what I paid for. I worked on both from time to time but I'm handy and find it much easier to fix something than to take it back to the dealer and trust it to their "techs". What I will say about the current Jayco is that I've been over, under, around, and through it, and it appears to be of higher quality than either of the other 2. Only time will tell about that. As I've said before... It must have been built on a Wednesday... Then again, in a year I may be cursing the day I picked it up.
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Old 09-07-2016, 02:43 PM   #30
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The federal lemon law applies to RV's and travel trailers. If you have had that many documented problems, you should pursue your rights. Endless venting here won't get you anything... just a friendly FYI. No reply expected or needed.
I joined the group to see if I was the only one having these issues - have had the RV in the shop longer than we've been able to enjoy in since our purchase in Nov of 2015. I appreciate the advice on the Federal Lemon Law. Will look into it...
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