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Old 10-06-2016, 04:13 PM   #1
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Jayflight 27BHS towing with Expedition or Surburban

Just curious if anyone is towing a 27BHS with a Surburban or Expedition, and if so how is it working for you...

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Old 10-06-2016, 05:54 PM   #2
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Just curious if anyone is towing a 27BHS with a Surburban or Expedition, and if so how is it working for you...

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I'm towingbours with a 2010 Toyota Tundra 4.6 with a 4.10 rear diff and tow package. It toes well but it is a good sized trailer. My tow capacity is 9200 to start and there is nothing in the truck except for dogs and people. When I weighed it last month at a CAT scale it was 1100 pm the tongue and about 7900 for the trailer. I know that doesn't answer your question but hopefully it gives you some food for thought.
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Old 10-06-2016, 09:59 PM   #3
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We tow the 28bhbe with an Escalade. We're just at the limit with a full load,full fuel, and people minus fresh water tanks on the scale. Weight distribution hitch setup and tows the mostly flat roads of Florida fine so far. Wouldn't want to go through the Rocky mountains though. An ecoboost expedition would be a step above in towing capacity I believe the new ones are rated at 9400 (I'm 8100).
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Old 10-07-2016, 07:13 AM   #4
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Thanks for the responses. I will have to set the hitch up differently as the hitch height is much higher on our Expy. I know it has the power, but expect i will get a lot more of the tail wagging the dog that i do with the Supercrew because of a shorter wheelbase. We are using a WDH and a single swaybar presently. The Expy has a 119" WB whereas the Supercrew has a 150" WB... Don;t know exactly how much that will affect the tail wagging, but i know it will tow differently.... Thanks again !!!
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We towed our X23B with the '03 Expe 5.4 and it was adequate, but just. The max tow was around 9500# and the HTT scaled in around 4400# with 600# on the hitch IIRC. My surprise was with the Bride and me aboard we were abt 300# shy of the Rear GAWR. With another couple and their "stuff" we would be over on the rear axle but still well under the max tow #.
My point is, don't go by the max tow wt.
From your posted TT weights you could estimate the TT GVW and tongue wts which will give you a starting point. After you get the new TT a visit to the scales will help you understand how you are loaded and if any tweaks to the WDH are needed. There are a couple of "stickies" that discuss how to weigh and how to interpret the results.
The CAT Scale is your friend.
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Old 10-17-2016, 05:59 PM   #6
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have a 2010 Expedition to tow 2014 Swift 29bhs (about 5800# dry) and equalizer hitch. Tows well even with 8 passengers - always allow more time to pass and accelerate!
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I'm towingbours with a 2010 Toyota Tundra 4.6 with a 4.10 rear diff and tow package. It toes well but it is a good sized trailer. My tow capacity is 9200 to start and there is nothing in the truck except for dogs and people. When I weighed it last month at a CAT scale it was 1100 pm the tongue and about 7900 for the trailer. I know that doesn't answer your question but hopefully it gives you some food for thought.
Are you sure on your tow capacity?
That looks like the 5.7L with 4:30's that comes with the tranny cooler.

The 4.6L looks around 6400 at least looking at the 2017 brochure (Doublecab standard bed)
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Are you sure on your tow capacity?
That looks like the 5.7L with 4:30's that comes with the tranny cooler.

The 4.6L looks around 6400 at least looking at the 2017 brochure (Doublecab standard bed)
The 2010 is anywhere between 8500 and 9500 depending on model in the 4.6. Bed, cab and 2 vs 4 wheel drive all play a factor.

I checked and double checked before pulling the trigger on the trailer.
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Thanks for the responses. I will have to set the hitch up differently as the hitch height is much higher on our Expy.
I'm not clear, what do you mean by setting it up "differently"? You adjust the hitch the same way you would with any other tow vehicle. You buy the right length shank to match the tongue of the trailer. My previous tow vehicle was an '03 Trailblazer. When I bought my Sierra I actually had buy a shorter shank.
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Suburbans are decent tow vehicles as long as you remain within ALL the limits. Expeditions, I can't vouch for. They are a shorter class of SUV, and likely not quite as stable as the longer wheelbase Suburban, all other things being roughly equal.
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We just bought a Jay Flight SLX 267BHSW. It's the lighter/cheaper version of the 27BHW. Essentially the same size and very similar layout.
Some where along the line it gains a foot and a half in length.

We are happy with our choice to keep the cost and the weight down. I figure we're at least 2000lbs below the tow capacity of the Ford Expedition, and towing seems very capable with an appropriate WD hitch. (It's but on an F-150 frame and engine, and with the tow package is rated a few hundred pounds under the F-150.)
We experience the odd pull/minor sway when large vehicles overtake at speed.

With 1000 extra pounds to tow I'm sure you can do it fine, but just watch the weight as you pile in bodies and equipment into both the trailer and the SUV and start to approach the tow capacity, which I think is around 9000lbs.
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I am towing my 2016 28BHBE with a 2012 Expedition EL with heavy duty tow package. Empty weight of my trailer is 6819 pounds. We only carry what we will need and a little extra food.


Once I got the hitch set up right. Trailer nose is 1" lower than the back of the trailer when hooked up. It tows great. Hardly no tail wagging (extremely little sway). When I had it set perfectly level, I had some sway.

Again, I only carry enough water on trips to wash hands and flush the toilet. With my family of 5, no firewood, we are almost 14800 pounds on the scale.
My kids are 14, 13 and 10. So they will grow. Too bad Ford didn't keep the Excursion. GCVW is 15000 pounds for my expedition. Towing around Eastern, Central Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, Virginia and North Carolina, we have not had any problems.
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