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Old 10-21-2011, 09:22 AM   #1
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Mud Dauber Issue - is dealer telling the truth?

We purchased a 2007 Jayco Jay Flight FBS on 9/29. When we got it home, we plugged it in to our garage and just had it parked in the driveway while we cleaned and familizarized ourselves with our new camper (our first one!). A couple days later, we tried to turn on the heat and it blew a fuse. Since we were only plugged in to our garage, we thought we probrably shouldn't be running the AC/Heat and the fridge, etc. My husband changed the fuse and we went on our way.

Last weekend we took the camper camping for the first time and it turned cool at night. We were plugged into the truck and the campground (30 amp) and the air, fridge, everything worked fine. As soon as we switched the heat on, it blew a fuse again. You could tell it was trying to draw power and then it would blow. We called the RV dealership as soon as we got home to let them know we were having trouble with it. They offer a 30 day 50/50 warranty so my husband is pretty knowledgeble about that stuff, but thought it would be better just to take it back and have them look at it.

They called earlier this week and said there were two mud dauber nests in the furnace which were causing a short and blowing the fuses. They cleaned out the nests, lubed the furnace and the heat is working great now. The concern my husband and I have, is it possible that mud daubers could build two nests in the furnace just in the 9 days since we brought it home and when it blew the fuse? They claim it was fully inspected and operating properly when we picked it up. When we questioned the service manager, he said mud daubers can build nests at any time and they want us to pay the 50/50 split, of course. It isn't a huge amount of money, but it's still hard to believe wasps would build not one, but two nests in that short amount of time. We haven't even seen any wasps around our house and the camper sat stored on the dealership lot for months.

What do you guys think? He's going to pick it up this afternoon and we'd like to have some info. They know this is our first camper and we don't want them to think we are ignorant just because we haven't owned a camper before. HELP!!!!!
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9 days sounds a bit fast for two nests to get put together. I'd expect it happened when it was on your dealer's lot. AT this point tho, it's an issue between your husband's opinion and their claim. Hind sight always being 20/20, could have run the furnace at the dealer's lot during pickup. Over and over there are stories on this board advising folks to "run EVERYTHING" before leaving the dealer.
As a side note, you can buy screens that cover the openings to the furnace, water heater and fridge. They don't cost much and are easy to install. My aunt and uncle had an experience similar to yours but they were out of warranty and it took a service guy several hours to figure out what the problem was. ($$$)
The bride and I are new to this also but I had a bag full of the screens in my hand as we left our dealer's lot thanks to my Uncle's advice.
Keep browsing this and other sites, there is invaluable help and advise available from folks that seem to have been born in a TT.
Good Luck and happy travels! On Monday we are leaving on our first "official" outing since getting getting ours.
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:28 AM   #3
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My money says the nests were already there, I think they take some time to construct but I`m no expert. Hard to believe two of them zeroed in on your trailer right after you got it home and built a mud nest in 9 days!
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:36 AM   #4
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Welcome to the Jayco Owners Forum EllaMae1975! Congrats on your "new" tt. Although a number of members here have endured issues with nests of some sort, your issue with mud daubers is the first mentioned here. If you can't find the help you need here, try googling them and see what comes up. Definitely let us know how it turns out for you. The info will certainly help someone in the future
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:06 PM   #5
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I can see one nest being built in just nine days. Those pesky, misbegotten, little trespassers can build faster than a Jayco assembly line. The second nest? I have serious doubts it's new but I wouldn't rule it out. It also may have been a two hole nest and the dealer may have assumed it was two nests.

As someone already mentioned, unless you had thoroughly checked out the unit, including running every appliance, before you took the unit off the lot, you really have no proof the nests were already there.
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If the dealer inspected your trailer like our dealer did ours they probably just walked around it and checked everything off. Or possibly they did it from the office.
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Time to get a mud dauber screen before it happens again.
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My guess is the nests were there before you bought the TT and the dealer did not fire up the furnace for any period of time.
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Hi Ellamae, you received some great advise by the above people. I just want to add that I think it's important to have a good relationship with the service people. You did the right thing by questioning what you were told. There are good people out there, it's just a matter of finding them. There may be more costly things down the road (heaven forbid) and second guessing their judgement is not a pleasant expierece. You'll know when you found the right place. That has been my experience .
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Nine days does seem awfully fast for two nests to be built unless there were two mud daubers having a race to see who could make one the fastest..........I always put screens on everything as soon as I get the camper.
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We have lots of mud daubers here where we live, and in 9 days they could build 2 nest easy. a mud dauber can carry a lot of mud in a days time.

I have seen it done in less time than that, you have had more than one mud dauber building the nest's.
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We have lots of mud daubers here where we live, and in 9 days they could build 2 nest easy. a mud dauber can carry a lot of mud in a days time.

I have seen it done in less time than that, you have had more than one mud dauber building the nest's.
I suppose we have to give the dealer the benefit of the doubt then! (but I still think the nests were already there!)
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I suppose we have to give the dealer the benefit of the doubt then! (but I still think the nests were already there!)
I think you are right, but down here they can build a two story bungalow in about 8 hours..lol...I get them all on the underside of my trailer and they show up quick.



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I think you are right, but down here they can build a two story bungalow in about 8 hours..lol...I get them all on the underside of my trailer and they show up quick.
I agree, same here. Also under the car/truck hood on the manifold. Both types, the long tube type almost always are in pairs and then the ones I call mud globbers. Big chuck of mud for nest. Hard as concrete! ya can here them rascals humming while building.
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Thank you all for the input. I contacted an exterminator and he said that while it is highly unlikely for the mud daubers to build a nest that quickly since there really hasn't been any activity with them, it is a possibility. His professional opinion though was that the nests were built on the dealer's lot. We spoke with the service department again and the owner of the dealership ultimately took care of the charge for us. Not while we were there of course, but after we couldn't come to an agreement and decided to settle it after the managers could discuss it. Either way, we are pleased with the outcome.

Lesson learned 1: go back and double check everything yourself before you drive off the lot.

Lesson learned 2: learn everything you can and be prepared when you talk with the dealer/service because they are more likely to take you seriously.

Lesson learned 3: Mud dauber nests are a necessity and already ordered for our TT!!

Thank you so much everyone!!!
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[QUOTE His professional opinion though was that the nests were built on the dealer's lot.][/QUOTE]

That`s my unprofessional opinion too! Glad to hear all worked out for the best.
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Nine days does seem awfully fast for two nests to be built unless there were two mud daubers having a race to see who could make one the fastest..........I always put screens on everything as soon as I get the camper.
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