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Old 09-14-2016, 05:15 PM   #1
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New to Travel Trailers. Need some feedback...

I own a 2016 F150 XLT with 3.5 EB Crew Cab with the Max Tow package. I also have a tonneau cover on the truck that weighs about 120 pounds. My truck stats are:
GVWR = 7,000
GCWR = 16,900
Max Trailer Weight = 11,500
Max Payload = 2,020
Max GAWR Front = 3,600, Back = 3,800
Base Curb Weight Front = 2,888, Back = 2,037, Total = 4,925
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I am about to purchase a new 2016 Jayco Jayflight 27RLS. The dryweight is supposed to be 6395, but it is marked 6600 on the trailer with full propane tanks.

My question is whether or not I will have any issues with the truck pulling the trailer. The yellow sticker in my door frame indicates the combined weight of cargo and occupants shoudn't exceed 1722 pounds.

We are supposed to close on the trailer soon. I would love to get feedback from experienced campers.

Thanks.
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Old 09-14-2016, 05:21 PM   #2
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Where did you get the max payload number of 2,020? There is a conflict between that and your yellow sticker.
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I'm towing a 28BHBE with my F150 with HD Tow. My payload as per my yellow sticker is 2003 pounds. My dry weight is 6540 and I am just about 7700 loaded. I don't have any issues towing using a 12k equalizer wdh setup. Would I like more truck? Sure, but I am OK with my setup for now. When I'm ready to trade my truck, I will be moving up to an F250 or 350 for sure.
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Old 09-14-2016, 05:45 PM   #4
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Welcome and congrats on the possible new rig!!!

As for the 27 RLS being a good match for your truck, we need a little more info:

How much do all the occupants weigh that will be traveling when towing?

Have you added anything else to the truck besides the 120lb tonneau cover?

What do you anticipate carrying in the truck bed when towing, the approximate weight?

A good wdh with integrated sway control can weigh ~100lbs, so figure that in.

The 27 has a "brochure" dry hitch/tongue weight (tw) of 725lbs. If you have 2-20lb propane tanks, it adds ~120lbs to the tw with a battery. If 2-30lb tank and a battery, you add ~160lbs before even loading the trailer with anything else. The front pass through offers a lot of storage, so almost 100% of that weight adds to the tw. So if all the other numbers look good, use caution on what is stored in there.

Add up the family weight, any cargo weight in the bed, the 120lb tonneau cover, 100lbs for the wdh, and say 1000lbs for the tw (estimated), have you exceeded the 1722lbs of payload per the yellow door jamb sticker?

Make sure you get a good wdh with integrated sway control. The Reese Dual Cam, the Reese SC, and the Equal-I-Zer 4 way system are all very good choices. Just make sure if you go with the Dual Cam that the installer knows how to properly install it!!!

Post back with more info.

Good luck!
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I haven't added anything else to the truck. We will probably have passenger cargo of around 500 pounds. If it's a close call, I don't want to buy the trailer. My concern is going over the 1722 pounds. We probably wouldn't have more than 100 additional pounds packed in the truck.
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Where did you get the max payload number of 2,020? There is a conflict between that and your yellow sticker.
I got the 2020 weight from a Ford manual for the 2016 F150. That was the weight for my truck with all of its specs. I suspect the number on the yellow sticker is lower because of the options on the truck. I'm not sure how much the max toe package or other options weigh. I
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I got the 2020 weight from a Ford manual for the 2016 F150. That was the weight for my truck with all of its specs. I suspect the number on the yellow sticker is lower because of the options on the truck. I'm not sure how much the max toe package or other options weigh.
You're correct, any options that add weight will reduce your payload from the max of 2020 for your configuration.

Nice that the newer F150s have more load capacity than the older steel body trucks did. I want to say the sticker on my 2012 with EcoBoost was under 1400 pounds and my truck wasn't loaded with anything (XLT).
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Dude, the trailer's LOADED weight is far more important than the dry weight. According to Jayco's website, that trailer's GVWR is 8750 pounds. That would include things like propane and all the other stuff we throw into our trailers. Your tongue weight will be 10-15% of that, so call it 13%. That's 1137.5 pounds, which leaves you 584 for payload on the truck, including passengers, cargo, fuel, etc. Sounds like it might be marginal. It might be workable if you don't put much in the trailer - call the tow weight 7000 pounds, now your tongue weight is 910 pounds. You're gonna need a good WDH setup.

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Old 09-15-2016, 06:57 AM   #9
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The hard part is knowing what you will end up packing in the from pass through, and the rest of the trailer..... If you pack like we do, you will exceed the payload of the truck. But if you only have a few bag chairs, awning mat, maybe small grill, plus a small tub for the water hose and 30a extension cord you will probably be ok.

What do you think you will store in the pass through?
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I'll pretty much echo exactly what Marcm157 said. I tow mine through the rockies. Zero issues really. The only time I get a tad concerned is when I'm on an extended downhill grade that exceeds 10%, I think I'm going to upgrade the brakes all around, next spring... but that isn't really a fault with the towing capacity so much. I don't have the numbers off my yellow sticker handy, but I have a tow rating of 11,000 (It was a couple hundred higher than that but I rounded down) Anyway, I will also be upgrading to a 250 next time... just not sure how long out I'm looking at. I try to tow with mostly empty tanks.. definitely no more than half full. We don't carry a whole lot with us in the pass through area, and most of it is light weight stuff. Just my experience so far..
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