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Old 05-06-2014, 07:58 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by hines57 View Post
snip..... I am partial to ford and dodge.....snip...... Are the new 150 / 1500 trucks better than the 2002 I have now.....snip
Yes, the one thing that has changed is the drivetrain in all 1/2 tons. The engines have increased horsepower/torque, and the transmissions are much better for towing (additional gearing).

As mentioned, I would take a close look at the Ford F-150 with the 3.5L EcoBoost engine configured with the HD Payload Package/Maximum Trailer Tow Package......, I believe this combo provides the highest payload capacity between the Ford and Ram. The objective in a 1/2 ton is to maximize "available", useable Payload Capacity".

Ford F-150 Payload Package Selector: http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/payload

If your looking for a TV that will provide a adequate Payload Capacity and Drivetrain for a possible TT upgrade in the future, then I would focus on 3/4 tons with a big gasser.



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Old 05-06-2014, 09:47 AM   #22
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Why not a 250 with 6.2 gas engine? You get a truck designed to tow with none of the diesel issues. Close to 400 hp and lb ft of torque should haul 7k pretty nicely.
What he said. I've never had that engine, just diesels which are great, but expensive up front. But if you're only pulling a few times a year and at low altitudes back east, there's no reason you can't do just great with a big gasser. As others have said, the half tonners have their weight limitations that the 250, or even a 2500 will overcome at not much more $.

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Old 05-06-2014, 10:27 AM   #23
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Out of curiosity, I did a "Build and Price" for a F150 V6 EcoBoost HD and a F250 6.2 V8.

Both were XLT Trim, Crew Cab, Short Bed, 4x4, 3.73 Locker. Had to add LT tires to the F150. No additional packages/options selected.

Difference in price: less than $1K

F150 towing 11,100 max, F250 towing 12,200 max

F250 with 4.30 Locker towing 15,100 max

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Old 05-06-2014, 05:53 PM   #24
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Thanks everyone again for all the information. This site is awesome. Anyone have any experience with the 6.4 gas 2500? I wonder about the gas mileage daily driving because I understand it shuts down cylinders.
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Old 05-06-2014, 06:26 PM   #25
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Ford's 3.5 ecoboost is incredible. With the low end torque like a diesel, tackles hills and acceleration with ease. Met with with some folks at Hocking Hills in Ohio, everyone was complaining about towing up the hills.....I was like, what hills? I was accelerating UP the hills without pushing the engine at all. The factory tow mirrors are a must
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:35 PM   #26
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Dodge RAM HD 2500 Mega Cab CUmmins Diesel. Tows like a dream and will work fine when/if we upgrade to a 5er.

The Ram has integrated trailer braking and a jake brake. Lots of Torque and I get good mileage towing or not. About 18 combined, 20 not towing 8 uphill, 12 on flat towing.

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:02 PM   #27
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I've been a Chevy guy all my life, but if I was to buy a new half ton truck today, it would probably be the new Dodge (or Ram, can't get used to that) with the self-leveling air bags.

Having said that, I must say that if you ever tow with a dually, you'll never want to tow with anything else. The hauler for my fifth wheel is a '96 Chevy crew cab dually with a vortec 454. While the gas mileage is horrible, I can balance that with the fact that it now only sees 2000-2500 miles per year, and we only paid $13,000 for it when we bought it 14 years ago. It is still a good solid truck. We just have to budget 50 cents per mile for fuel every time we take a trip.

One word of caution about the used diesel trucks: They are great for pulling, and I'd love to have one myself, but even though those motors will last nearly forever, the rest of the truck will still wear out somewhere between 100k and 200k miles. I've been monitoring the market for used diesel trucks around here. They all seem to have two things in common. They've all been rode pretty hard, and they all seem to have 200,000 or more miles.

I don't know if any of this helps, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:04 PM   #28
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The Ford Ecoboost is a good engine with great low-end torque for a gasser. However, see the following link - http://www.f150forum.com/f82/cooked-brakes-254457/. With the smaller 6 cylinder 3.5 engine, it can leave a little to be desired in the engine breaking department. Long and steep downhill grades (mainly for those out west) will require more breaking, especially with a larger and heavier trailer.
It is better to tow than to be towed.

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:29 PM   #29
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6 to 8 trips a year would not justify the diesel in my opinion. I'd look a either the Ford F-250 6.2 gasser or the Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi.

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I'd 2nd Boss Wagon's thoughts on a gasser for little use, Deveak's thoughts on the EcoBoost, it's still a light truck, although I don't want to get into a war with its believers, and Etex's comment about the dually. SRW trucks are probably fine but the extra tires make a huge difference in handling.

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