Originally Posted by Mikeos
snip....... With those numbers I think I am ok..... snip
Unfortunately most 1/2 ton pickup trucks lack a adequate Payload Capacity, and most folks find this out as the loaded tongue weights increase with larger and heavier TT's. As mentioned, the loaded TT tongue weight of a TT is supported by the TV, thus reduces the TV's available payload capacity. In your case your actual loaded TT tongue weight may be ok, but once you add the weight of the motorcycle (ramp, gas can, etc.) to the bed of the truck it has a direct effect on the "remaining" available payload capacity.
Referencing your earlier posted weights, please note:
* GVWR is the "maximum" weight the TV can weigh (unhitched, hitched, etc.)
* "Curb Weight" is the base model vehicle weight including a 150lb driver and a full tank of fuel..., it doesn't include the vehicle's options, passengers, cargo, etc.
* Your published Tow Rating of 9,050lbs is based on "Curb Weight".
* Your published Payload Capacity of 1,440lb is based on "Curb Weight".
* Weight of the WDH is subtracted from the TV's payload capacity.
* The TT's "yellow sticker" doesn't include any dealer weight adds (ie; battery, etc.)
* The WDH should be sized (rated) to support a percentage of any weight (motorcycle, etc.) placed in the bed of the truck located behind the rear axle because the WDH also supports this weight.
* You may want to consider towing with only a couple of gallons in the fresh water tank (reduces impact on the loaded tongue weight).
IMO taking your "loaded, ready-to-camp" TV/TT combination (with motorcycle) to a CAT scale will eliminate all the guess work and address most of your questions. The CAT scale data will confirm WDH sizing/adjustment, actual TV loaded weight compared to GVWR, TT loaded tongue weight, etc.).
The following JOF link will walk you step-by-step through the process of weighing a TV/TT combination at a CAT scale. Everyone should preform this task at least once with their respective TV/TT combination.... provides a wealth of information in support of your TV/TT towing expectations.
CAT Scale "How To": http://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...igh-Your-tt-tv
Actual Tow Rating: http://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...uot-Tow-Rating
Another option is to load-up only your TV (ready-to-camp w/motorcycle) and weigh it at the CAT scale. Subtract the CAT scale weight from your TV's GVWR noted on the driver's door...., the remaining weight is what you have available for the TT's loaded tongue weight and any other TV weight not accounted for at the scale.
I hope this helps.