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Old 03-18-2013, 12:37 PM   #1
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New Tubular Cam Locks on Storage doors

I decided to change out the standard CH751 key locks on the outside storage doors (3) to Tubular Cam Locks, for a LITTLE added security. I understand that none of the storage doors can be totally secured. I spent a good amount of time searching the Internet for the proper ones. I came across many products that did not allow you to remove the key in the open position, or were not keyed alike. I found a GREAT company (Industrial Lock & Hardware) and sent them an email with my CH751 measurements and asked if they had them in stock. Brenda called me back within the hour and confirmed that they would work perfectly, and took my order. The Tubular Cam Locks are all keyed "ALIKE", and can be removed in the open position. I ordered 3 locks @ $11.35 each, plus $9.50 for shipping. The instructions were well written and straight forward, if you need them. I ordered them on Friday (3/15) and received them this morning (3/18), via USPS. The parts arrived in a sealed plastic bag. The change out took me less than 15 minutes from start to finish for all 3 locks, and they work perfectly.
I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND this company.
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FYI, on all Cam Locks I have seen there are nylon inserts that prevent the key from being removed when in the unlocked position, you can simply remove the nylon inserts or leave them depending on what you prefer. I changed mine, purchased the "keyed alike" locks from a local locksmith for ~$4.50 each. IMO very worth the effort and cost to keep snooping eyes and sticky hands out.
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I ordered from Industrial Lock & Hardware about two years ago. The order arrived quickly and it was easy to install the new locks. I added a lock to the electric rear stabilizing jack cover and that was easy, too.
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So what are you going to do when you misplace your keys - sure is handy to knock on the neighbors door and borrow his keys...

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So what are you going to do when you misplace your keys - sure is handy to knock on the neighbors door and borrow his keys...
It is kinda scary to say this, but most cam locks are really easy to pick. Because of how easy it was to pick these locks Kryptonite brand bike locks and vending machine companies changed their style cam locks to make it much harder to pick.

With a little practice you can pick the older style cam lock as fast as using a key. I learned via watching a YouTube video about 6 years ago. Not sure what style cam lock ISS4Locks provides, but at that price I would hope they are the non pick able style.
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So what are you going to do when you misplace your keys - sure is handy to knock on the neighbors door and borrow his keys...

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Access the storage areas from the inside where you can take the lock off if necessary. On my TT all the storage areas are accessible under either the rest bunk or front queen bed.
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If someone really wants in your trailer they will just use a flat head pry bar and be in within 5 seconds. You can pop those aluminum doors quite easily.
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It is kinda scary to say this, but most cam locks are really easy to pick. Because of how easy it was to pick these locks Kryptonite brand bike locks and vending machine companies changed their style cam locks to make it much harder to pick.

With a little practice you can pick the older style cam lock as fast as using a key. I learned via watching a YouTube video about 6 years ago. Not sure what style cam lock ISS4Locks provides, but at that price I would hope they are the non pick able style.
The ones on their website are the tubular style. They are a lot harder to pick than the standard wafer tumbler cam locks. Being a Locksmith for 28 years, I do recommend checking with your local Locksmith and seeing what they carry. I just try to do business locally when possible and practical.
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This may sound a bit naive, but I generally do not lock my storage doors when in a CG, and do not put anything inside that is not easily and fairly cheap to replace. My feeling is that I would rather replace my chocks, hoses, and ladder, etc. than have to repair the door and frame where someone damaged it while forcing their way in. As stated above, these doors are very easy to pop open, locked or not. Been camping for many years, and not one item has ever gone missing. JMHO
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This may sound a bit naive, but I generally do not lock my storage doors when in a CG, and do not put anything inside that is not easily and fairly cheap to replace. My feeling is that I would rather replace my chocks, hoses, and ladder, etc. than have to repair the door and frame where someone damaged it while forcing their way in. As stated above, these doors are very easy to pop open, locked or not. Been camping for many years, and not one item has ever gone missing. JMHO
I agree 100%.

I have not locked my compartment doors for years. The cost to repair a door is more than the stuff inside.

I've never had anything stolen from my RV in 14 seasons of camping. We've RV'd through all the lower 48 and overnight in most of them.
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The ones on their website are the tubular style. They are a lot harder to pick than the standard wafer tumbler cam locks. Being a Locksmith for 28 years, I do recommend checking with your local Locksmith and seeing what they carry. I just try to do business locally when possible and practical.
I probably should not say how to do it. But all you need is a cheap Bic pen, the type with the white pen body. Pull out all the guts. Shove the pen body into the lock (where the key goes), give it a couple of wiggles and a twist, and low and behold it unlocks.

When I was in college and working for campus security we did it all the time as it was easier then getting the acetylene torch out to cut the lock. Yes we did remove bikes if they were abandoned, locked in a spot where they needed to be removed from (aka blocking a fire exit), or when a resident student lost their keys.
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This may sound a bit naive, but I generally do not lock my storage doors when in a CG, and do not put anything inside that is not easily and fairly cheap to replace. My feeling is that I would rather replace my chocks, hoses, and ladder, etc. than have to repair the door and frame where someone damaged it while forcing their way in. As stated above, these doors are very easy to pop open, locked or not. Been camping for many years, and not one item has ever gone missing. JMHO
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I used the combination cam locks a few years ago, and loved them. No keys, can leave unlocked if needed, but latch unlocked, unlike standard cam key locks. I leave them unlocked at times, but in the rain, they need to be latched, and the standard key cam locks must be locked. I want both sides of the door shut and sealed, not one corner.

I have cam combo locks now, but they are for the new thick doirs. My 32BHDS has the thin doors. Need to order new ones. Oh, and in tge dark, they are no issue either. I just rotate one tumbler fir easy access.
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What I have done for years is just hang a picture of my mother-in-law on the outside of each compartment door. Just kidding.
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