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Old 09-07-2016, 07:25 PM   #61
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Boy does this thread bring back some backup memories when we first picked up our trailer.

Luckily when I purchased my new F150, I had the Pro Trailer Backup Assist installed. With the backup assist even my kids can hop in the pickup and backup the trailer no issues. You literally just turn the knob on the console and work the peddles and the computer turns the wheel. Anyone can pretty much thread the trailer in any spot. Love it.
I'm in the minority I'm sure but absolutely HATE Pro Trailer Backup Assist!. I wish I could rip it out of my truck. I am very old school and have no issues backing my trailer the conventional way. I hear lots of positive feedback on the system but I can't stand it.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:54 PM   #62
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My wife stays in the truck until we're parked. I've never asked her to spot or anything. Figured I would just take it real slow and get out often to take a look if needed. Never hit anything in the past 9 years, so my track record is pretty good!
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Old 09-07-2016, 08:16 PM   #63
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Confidence comes from practice.It may be that the Original Posters just need to find a big space, send the other one out for beer and practice alone.
This, other than some basic tips about how to place your hands on the wheel to move the rear end of the trailer in the proper direction, is probably the best advice in this thread.

Practice is the only way to get good at backing and it is best done alone. I have taught many people to back up trailers. The one's that learn the quickest, and have the least amount of trouble generally speaking are women.

Take a water hose along and lay it on the ground in the path you wish to take and simply make the trailer tires follow the hose. Eventually you will get to the point where you can use an imaginary hose.

I've done this for decades, I still go slow. I still have to pull forward occasionally and take another go. It's not a race. When I go to a new spot I still get out, and lay down my mental hose. I might place a couple of rocks at some key locations and I always remember to look up and check overhead clearances as well. Sometimes I have to get out a couple of times and look again to make sure I'm where I want to be. Sometimes the guy behind me in the loop has to wait a few minutes. It is all part of the fun.

But no matter what happens I never yell at my wife or my daughter for trying to spot for me. Because they only person in control of the rig is me.
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Old 09-08-2016, 01:10 PM   #64
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My wife watches my "blind side". So, if I am backing into a spot, with the trailer turning to the driver side, I can't see the passenger side of the TT in my mirrors. She is responsible for making sure I don't hit anything by standing so she can see my mirror (so I can see her) and advising as needed.

Before starting the back in process, we both hop and out and pick where the TT needs to be, so we are on the same page!
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Well, I hate to admit this, but we all just gave the wrong advice....

Pull through site- all issues solved!!! Lol

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That is the world SWMBO would love to live in! She always looks for such opportunities. Even when not trailering.

I'm so used to backing (both with and without a trailer), all I need is a competent spotter.

Another subject we have agreed to disagree on.
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My wife stays in the truck until we're parked. I've never asked her to spot or anything. Figured I would just take it real slow and get out often to take a look if needed. Never hit anything in the past 9 years, so my track record is pretty good!
For me that is also the best way. I need to see and survey myself. Wife and kids stay in the rig. I rarely have to get out to look more than once. If I don't get the mental picture of where I am going, no amount of direction or arm waving is going to help me
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Well, I hate to admit this, but we all just gave the wrong advice....

Pull through site- all issues solved!!! Lol
I have found in many cases the pull throughs are not as private as the back ins.
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If you really want a toy of some type to simulate backing with a trailer try looking for a tractor/farm implement set. They typically have steerable fronts, just make sure it isn't a hay wagon type trailer with a pivoting front axle, whole 'nother ballgame.

Another option is to borrow a lawn tractor with a yard cart trailer to practice backing with initially. The short trailers can be challenging to back up at first and will give you a good feel for how it responds.

Best bet would be to find an open parking lot and get completely familiar with how the trailer responds to steering inputs without fear if trees in the way( watch out for light poles though).

I generally back the camper in unguided. My wife watches for obstructions that I can't see, and will tell me when to stop as there are typically trees behind the site that I can't see.


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We had that problem and solved it REALLY EASY. Get the dam back up camera...
Problem solved
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Exclamation G.A.L. Method

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Kiss method, keep it simple. Place wife behind trailer back up until screaming stops, park trailer and enjoy peace and quiet.
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I got a good chuckle out of your sense of humor




X2. Walkie talkies are standard issue in the truck before we leave the house so that they are ready to go when we arrive at the campsite. We both do a quick walk around the site, I tell her my plan and she keeps an eye on the blind side. Works out good (so far anyway ).



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Okay, so maybe I take some of the comments in these types of threads too literally, but the derogatory comments many guys make regarding their wives drive me crazy. Maybe guys if you didn't treat her like she was an incompetent, helpless ninny (at least that is how you come across as treating her) and gave her the keys she would back the trailer in better than you ever could. Good grief, many of the posts on this subject make it sound like the guys' worth is somehow measured by his trailer backing ability. Both my husband and I (and we are not unique in this), can and do, hook/unhook, pull and BACKUP all of our trailers - 5er, gooseneck, and bumper pull. When our son was about to turn 14 and wanted to get his drivers license, a requirement was that by himself he could hook/unhook and back up every trailer. We were at the DMV on his 14th birthday.

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Thanks Duke for recognizing a joke!

Ranter:

May I suggest the G.A.L. Method? Get A Life

Seriously my first post was a joke!

Moral to this story; Don't step between a tow vehicle and trailer and don't step behind a trailer! If you cannot BE SEEN by the DRIVER you are in DANGER!

This post ain't no joke!

I had a friend almost killed at work stepping behind a tractor trailer at a loading dock to give the driver signals, the driver did not see him. He was crushed between the trailer and the loading dock. The 8" rubber dock bumpers was the only thing that kept him from being completely crushed. It was a miracle that he survived with a crushed pelvis and femurs.
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