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Old 11-09-2015, 04:12 AM   #21
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Gotta do what's right for you. DH likes GMC/Chevie and for business, needs a truck with a bed-lid. After 3 gassers, the TT caused him to rethink #4 and he went diesel. In chatting with another diesel camping pal - he and DH concurred that they'll never go back; the DWs agree from the safety angle, less white-knuckling on nasty roads.

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Old 11-09-2015, 05:54 AM   #22
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Should I join the 3/4 ton diesel club$$$$?

I have never talked with a diesel owner who wished he bought a gasser.
I agree, if you don't need one in the future a gasser will do the job.

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Old 11-09-2015, 06:27 AM   #23
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FYI- I know of 2 people that bought diesels and will never own one again. It goes both ways! If you drive a lot everyday, a diesel may be for you. If you would use it around town as a daily driver, then a new diesel may have issues. The DEF systems screwed up a perfectly good truck in my opinion.
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Old 11-09-2015, 06:49 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by doonkin View Post
Hi-advice please.
Should I buy a 3/4 ton deisel. I am towing a 5500lb trailer- then add average cargo for average famx2 kids.
I'm towing w a Nissan Titan w 7000lb max. I feel the need to upgrade to a 3/4 2500 diesel dodge/ford/gmc. They are sooo expensive, and I'm not in construction so I can't write any of it off tax wise?

Short story. Bought a 154bh, then realizing I needed a bigger truck than the fams suv- rapidly pulled the trigger on a Nissan Titan. Worked perfect. Within 6 months we admitted we'd bought to small a camper- I went to trade for a 184bh- but
way bigger w a 23mbh. 2000 lb to 5500lbs overnight.
I've towed the big camper for a year now w no problems except for a few times(very hi wind- up big hills w air on on full). I service the **** out of it even tho there's only 15000 miles on it.
I'm now looking to bigger, farther journeys( weeks on end, 1000+ mile trips.
Bottom line. I'm paid up in full and relatively happy, but know I'm pushing/asking a lot from my1/2ton.
Should I go 50k into debt n buy the inevitable diesel monster?

Sorry for being long winded��
No matter what you choose I would caution you to do your homework. Just beacuse you buy a diesel does not mean that the truck is going to do what you want effectively. Whatever flavor you pick get on a forum and reserch the vehicle years, models, rears and tranny setups especially if you are buying used.

Over the last few years Diesels have evolved tremendously with emmissions and with that came the introduction of DEF. Pre DEF a lot of engines went through a phase of re-gen that requires the engine to be run at high temps to treat the exhaust system. Every brand has it's ticks, some more that others and some just delete everything (another expense).

My point is that with gas it's pretty easy, engine, tranny and rear. With Diesel it's mainly engine and you don't want to jump into a diesel without knowing about the possible ticks.

Also confirm which rear pairs best with your engine and tranny based on desired use. Like this forum the truck forums are a wealth of information that could help you avert a wrong decision.

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Old 11-09-2015, 09:23 AM   #25
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I do use my existing 1/2 ton-gas as my everyday - but only a mile from work, so not wracking up lots of miles.
Boy, the debate over diesel/gas is like Reps or Dems.
I would like a stronger vehicle at some point but can hold out. Go old-school and save like folks used to do- not finance like everything now.

My Titan is not w factory tow package,
So it's 7000lb max w/out tow gears.

I think there is an in between, if you are only towing 5500lbs
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Old 11-09-2015, 11:50 AM   #26
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If you are only driving 1 mile to work, you will do more damage to a diesel than a gasser. Diesels tend to take much longer to warm up and if you don't run it hard, you'll just load it up with condensation.

If you are concerned with the way your Titan handles the TT, look into getting a much better WDH like a ProPride or Hensley. Makes the towing experience absolutely wonderful. I tow with one hand on the wheel no matter what the wind conditions are.

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Old 11-09-2015, 12:56 PM   #27
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If you are only driving 1 mile to work, you will do more damage to a diesel than a gasser. Diesels tend to take much longer to warm up and if you don't run it hard, you'll just load it up with condensation.

This is one of the primary reasons I didn't buy a diesel when my time came. I towed my 28 BHBE with my 2012 Sierra 1500 for more than a year. It towed okay, but just wasn't as comfortable as I would have liked. I was just barely within specs on the truck, and with a little one on the way, that was changing QUICK. I only drive 7 miles to work, and we're mostly weekenders for RVing, so a diesel wouldn't have been the right choice for my usage pattern, AND I didn't want to spend that much money.

So I ended up with a RAM 2500 with 6.4 L Hemi. It fits our life and usage pattern perfectly. It has more than enough capacity to handle everything I throw at it. It tows my BHBE great, and is a great truck for my family in every other way. I bought new and financed, but I got a great rate, and I plan to keep the truck for a LONG time after it's paid off. If I had it to do over again, I would have gotten it instead of my GMC in the first place, but you know what they say about hind sight...

I'm not knocking diesels either. If I had a different usage pattern, I would have considered it pretty seriously. I could just never justify the extra cost because I have no REAL NEED for one, so it is what it is. And I have no regrets on my choice of truck.

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Old 11-10-2015, 12:22 AM   #28
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I bought the Ford F-250 Diesel and couldn't be happier. But we have no kids to feel and school. A friend of mine went with a 16 F-150 with the Eco-boost. He saves money and has the power when he needs it. Who says we can't compromise? Happy Campiing.
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:30 AM   #29
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Get your hands on a tow rating brochure, Trailer life offers a good one, and compare tow ratings. If you feel the need to upgrade, several 1/2 tons are rated higher than your Nissan. If you decide to go with a 3/4 gas, make sure you check the rear end ratio, some of them are rated not musch more than some 1/2 tons. Example, I had a 2004 GMC 3/4 ton gas extended cab with 4:10 rear end that I wanted to trade for a slightly newer crew cab. I could not find another Chevy 3/4 ton gas with that rear end, every thing I found was 3:73, which is rated around 3000 lbs less than the 4:10. Ended up getting a diesel in order to tow my 8000lb trailer. New GM 2500 gas all come with the 4:10 rear end.
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Old 11-10-2015, 02:55 PM   #30
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I`m pulling the same weight trailer (5500 dry about 6500 loaded) with a 12 yr old 2500 gasser. Does the job. And today`s gassers have more power and torque then mine. My conclusion is no you do not need a diesel.


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