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10-25-2016, 09:58 AM
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Those blue dump tanks
I am thinking about getting one of those blue dump tanks. How do you keep it from getting stinky and where do you store it? My wife is not a fan of the idea so I need to convince her
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10-25-2016, 10:13 AM
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I've decided to take a cheaper approach.
I was going to attain a 55 gallon blue water barrel, and pump my grey water into it with a small 12V water pump while it sits in the back of my truck. Then I was going to plumb the bottom of the barrel with a hose attachment and use my 3/4" garden hose to "dump" it at the appropriate location.
Well, I never got around to getting that drum, and instead "acquired" a 15 gallon water tote that I will use the same way (I found it washed up on the beach, and picked it up). Except I won't need the pump to transfer the water from my tank to my tote.
Of important note here is that I would never use this setup for black water; gray water only. We have never come even close to filling our black tank while out and about. Even if we stayed a week in one place, with disciplined black tank usage (and the use of CG facilities when available) we should have enough capacity not to have to dump until the end. Our most limiting factor has always been gray tank size, and now I don't have to worry about that at all, and the solution was FREE.
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10-25-2016, 10:55 AM
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At the end of each trip I pour some bleach in it and flush it out.
We only need it on week long trips, and mostly for gray water. I carry it in the bed of my truck. If I had to I'd carry it in the bathroom in the shower basin.
It gets stored in our shed when not being used.
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10-25-2016, 10:57 AM
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Most of them have the ability to rinse it out at the dump station.
That's what I do with mine. Dump it, fill about half way with water, shake the crap out of it (yeah, that's a pun) and dump it again. Then I seal it up and store it under the trailer until I need it again. I have used mine for grey and for black. More often for grey.
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10-25-2016, 12:28 PM
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Closed up there should be no smell from it.. if there is a smell it is leaking... 8 years Boondocking with a blueboy and no smell from it yet
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10-25-2016, 01:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loosenuts
Most of them have the ability to rinse it out at the dump station.
That's what I do with mine. Dump it, fill about half way with water, shake the crap out of it (yeah, that's a pun) and dump it again. Then I seal it up and store it under the trailer until I need it again. I have used mine for grey and for black. More often for grey.
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This was always my procedure too - always worked well. When I got home I'd use some Simple Green or similar product to give it another good rinse - has no smell in it to this day.
Now that its just the wife and I we can make a whole week without it, but always have it along - just in case.
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10-25-2016, 06:59 PM
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That is a good idea, I have been looking at a Barker 42gal tote, but I'll be in roughly 300CAD and I am a bit nervous about towing it around. I would prefer to have something in the bed of the truck, the key issue would be the pump. Do you need to use a macerator pump to grey water, or will any regular pump do?
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Originally Posted by Camper_bob
I've decided to take a cheaper approach.
I was going to attain a 55 gallon blue water barrel, and pump my grey water into it with a small 12V water pump while it sits in the back of my truck. Then I was going to plumb the bottom of the barrel with a hose attachment and use my 3/4" garden hose to "dump" it at the appropriate location.
Well, I never got around to getting that drum, and instead "acquired" a 15 gallon water tote that I will use the same way (I found it washed up on the beach, and picked it up). Except I won't need the pump to transfer the water from my tank to my tote.
Of important note here is that I would never use this setup for black water; gray water only. We have never come even close to filling our black tank while out and about. Even if we stayed a week in one place, with disciplined black tank usage (and the use of CG facilities when available) we should have enough capacity not to have to dump until the end. Our most limiting factor has always been gray tank size, and now I don't have to worry about that at all, and the solution was FREE.
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10-25-2016, 09:24 PM
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About those 42 gallon totes... God help you if you have to pull one uphill when full.
I was a bit surprised at how difficult it can be to move up a hill, especially over uneven ground or loose gravel.
Still glad I have it though, lifesaver last summer when we ended up at a spot with no sewer connection.
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10-26-2016, 08:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by motorbreath
That is a good idea, I have been looking at a Barker 42gal tote, but I'll be in roughly 300CAD and I am a bit nervous about towing it around. I would prefer to have something in the bed of the truck, the key issue would be the pump. Do you need to use a macerator pump to grey water, or will any regular pump do?
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I have 2 of them and transport them to the dump station in the back of the truck. I am sure an old water pump WILL NOT WORK.. there is too much debris in grey water.. get a flojet macerator pump.. one of the better investments you will make.
FloJet RV Waste Pump Kit - Xylem 18555000A - Drain & Flush Systems - Camping World
Check Amazon too for probably a better price..
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10-26-2016, 09:10 AM
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Thanks guys
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10-26-2016, 08:09 PM
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The large totes are best used behind a golf cart, quad, SxS, or your tow vehicle. You can rinse them out and with the caps closed they don't stink.
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10-27-2016, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Seann45
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Too much debris in the gray water? I don't know about that. Black water, I could understand. And even with a macerator pump, you'd still get too much for a fluid transfer pump to work (and you wouldn't need it anyway right?) But with a moderate screen on your kitchen sink, you shouldn't have enough debris in the gray tank to bother one of these simple transfer pumps.
This is the one I was thinking of getting for my setup before I changed plans: 12 Volt Marine Utility Water Pump
HF has a few other pumps available that might work too, but this one is small and cheap, which for me was the whole point. I'm thinking you don't want the flow rate to be too high, or there won't be enough pressure on the front of the pump to keep it "fed". You're just using gravity to feed the intake of the pump, the intake hose is not sitting in a pool of water.
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10-27-2016, 12:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Camper_bob
Too much debris in the gray water? I don't know about that. Black water, I could understand. And even with a macerator pump, you'd still get too much for a fluid transfer pump to work (and you wouldn't need it anyway right?) But with a moderate screen on your kitchen sink, you shouldn't have enough debris in the gray tank to bother one of these simple transfer pumps.
This is the one I was thinking of getting for my setup before I changed plans: 12 Volt Marine Utility Water Pump
HF has a few other pumps available that might work too, but this one is small and cheap, which for me was the whole point. I'm thinking you don't want the flow rate to be too high, or there won't be enough pressure on the front of the pump to keep it "fed". You're just using gravity to feed the intake of the pump, the intake hose is not sitting in a pool of water.
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Coffee grounds globs of fat there are all kinds of things that you don't realize in your gray tank. Think a regular water pump will handle hair?
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10-27-2016, 01:01 PM
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My little 15 gallon blue boy has allowed us to camp in one spot without sewer for over a week. It takes up very little space in my truck bed.
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10-27-2016, 01:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seann45
Coffee grounds globs of fat there are all kinds of things that you don't realize in your gray tank. Think a regular water pump will handle hair?
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All good points. Although if I catch anyone dumping coffee grounds down my drain, they get rewarded by sleeping outside for the rest of their life. That stuff is like sand in a plumbing system.
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10-27-2016, 01:03 PM
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We also havea 15 gallon tote. I bring it along once in a while, but have never used it.
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10-27-2016, 01:34 PM
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I've used a good sized one for years for gray water. It's got 4wheels and a long handle with a loop that drops over a hitch ball. Just tow it over to the dump station and drain it. Rinse and repeat. Never smells. I carry it in the bed of the truck behind the 5th wheel hitch. Really convenient.
When dry camping we carry portable water jugs to replenish the fresh tank. All the comforts of home
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10-27-2016, 05:47 PM
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Ok I think I have the dw sold. I have a 30' trailer. Think it has a 30 gal tank. What tote size and brand should I get
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10-27-2016, 06:04 PM
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I purchased a 42 gallon tote back when I had our 28BHBE. That TT had 40 gallon gray/black tanks...so I figured the 42 gallon would give me room to spare. I've used it a ton of times with no problems...even on our new unit.
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10-27-2016, 06:24 PM
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When we had a motorhome I had one but didn't use it that often. I carried it ratchet strapped underneath between the frame rails. I guess if you used it regularly that might not be a good place but it worked for us. Of course, the motorhome had a 100 gallon gray tank anyway.
We just spent Thursday thru Sunday last weekend dry camping at the Auburn football game and never filled our 60 gallon gray tank on the trailer. Just 2 of us and we really know how to conserve gray tank space.
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