Will I have trouble pulling this TT

[Hamilton Tom]

I have a 2008 tundra with a tow rate of 10,200. In the process of buying a
2013 Jayco Jay Flight 33RLDS unloaded weight of 7825. I will have weight distribution bar put on plus I have the tow package installed on the tundra with transmission cooler and gauge. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[hbravo]

I don't have your truck but check tongue weight and payload. That is where a lot of 1/2 ton trucks start to show their weakness.

[gtsum2]

Unlikely


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[Heady]

Which engine and gear ratio do you have in your Tundra?

I have a 2013 Tundra Double Cab and it pulls my x20b like its not even back there. However as the previous poster said, the payload is what might get ya. After doing the scale numbers, i found that i needed to move more of the cargo from the truck to the TT.

[Rustic Eagle]

Tom,

Depending on your personal loading habits, the 33RLDS can be a pretty heavy TT for most 1/2 tons....., especially in it's loaded tongue weight. As a reference point, consider that the TT's loaded tongue weight should be in the 13% to 15% range of the 36ft. long 33RLDS's loaded weight.

The 33RLDS has a 7,825lb UVW and a 10,300lb GVWR........ as an example; (7,825lbs) + (400lbs ship weight delta (approx.)) + (100lbs dealer items, battery, etc.) + (600lbs cargo, no fluids) = 8,925lbs Loaded TT. At 8,925lbs the loaded tongue weight range would then be 1,160lbs to 1,339lbs.

If the TT is on the dealer's lot, there will be a Yellow Sticker on the outside wall identifying the actual Ship Weight from the manufacture.

Since you have the Tundra, load it as you would if you were going camping (full fuel, passengers, cargo, etc.) and weigh it at a CAT scale. Subtract the CAT scale weight from the the Tundra's specified GVWR that is noted on the driver's door. The remaining weight is what you have for the combined weights of the TT's loaded tongue weight, WDH, and any other TV weight not accounted for at the CAT scale. This will add some substance to your do-diligence.

As mentioned, 1/2 tons have some attractive looking Tow Ratings and GCWR's, but most fall short in the payload capacity (inclusive of the TV's GVWR).

Bob

[clutch]

Tongue weight will be a lot for a 1/2 ton truck. We have a 33RLTS and the loaded tongue weight is close to 2,000 lbs. I added air bags to my one ton and it feels a lot better when on the road.

[LongIslandCamper]

Originally Posted by Hamilton Tom

I have a 2008 tundra with a tow rate of 10,200. In the process of buying a
2013 Jayco Jay Flight 33RLDS unloaded weight of 7825. I will have weight distribution bar put on plus I have the tow package installed on the tundra with transmission cooler and gauge. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Will it do it? Yes. Should you do it? I wouldn't.

That 7,800 figure means nothing because that is the weight of the camper without any options like a stove, air conditioning, roof ladder and more. I bet that puppy comes in around 8,600 lbs once those options are added. Then you have to add in the amount of cargo you'll personally put in like food and clothing. This will probably put you well over 9,000 lbs easily.

Also, the tongue weight of that camper is listed at just over 1,000 lbs. That's also before any options and cargo are added. I'm not going to venture a guess but I will say that will be a lot higher then 1,000 lbs.

Your Tundra has a payload capacity of about 1,500 lbs. Any weight you add to the Tundra should not exceed that 1,500 number. Things like passengers, cargo in the bed of the truck and the tongue weight of the camper itself should not exceed 1,500 lbs combined. I'm sure you don't plan on traveling alone.

At the end of the day, if you decided to pull that camper with no passengers or cargo in the truck and no food, clothing or other supplies in the camper then you'd be fine. Of course that's never going to happen so I'd be looking for a much lighter trailer or a bigger truck. Try looking at a 30dsre.

[Hamilton Tom]

Thanks all for the help. After everyone's input and sleeping on it, we are going to call and cancel. Thankfully it was late and nothing has been run through yet. We have decided to look at the jayco white hawk 27dsrl. Max weight on that I believe is 7500 with tongue of 610. Hope I am reading the specs correct. We live in cincinnati area and want to head out west next summer. So mountain pulling will be required. Seems the jayco with the 2 yr warranty is the way to go. Also they seem very well built.

[mwebber78]

Good call, I have a similar sized Jayco Eagle with nearly identical axle positioning and the as-built weight with propane but no camping gear is nearly 8,950 lbs. That's not a half-ton friendly rig when you factor in the tongue weight tips the scale past 1,200 lbs.

[greenenvy1]

Good plan. I delivered a 33 RLDS with my one ton and I recall it being a well suited trailer for a truck that size due to tongue weight. Shipping weight on that model was 8358 lbs as equipped.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by Hamilton Tom

Thanks all for the help. After everyone's input and sleeping on it, we are going to call and cancel. Thankfully it was late and nothing has been run through yet. We have decided to look at the jayco white hawk 27dsrl. Max weight on that I believe is 7500 with tongue of 610. Hope I am reading the specs correct. We live in cincinnati area and want to head out west next summer. So mountain pulling will be required. Seems the jayco with the 2 yr warranty is the way to go. Also they seem very well built.

Good luck with your new TT.
I live in the Cincinnati area as well. Just did the trip out West this year. We left mid April and had great weather for 72 days. Missed all the forest fires etc.

Safe travels,
Doug

[cekkk]

Originally Posted by Hamilton Tom

Thanks all for the help. After everyone's input and sleeping on it, we are going to call and cancel. Thankfully it was late and nothing has been run through yet. We have decided to look at the jayco white hawk 27dsrl. Max weight on that I believe is 7500 with tongue of 610. Hope I am reading the specs correct. We live in cincinnati area and want to head out west next summer. So mountain pulling will be required. Seems the jayco with the 2 yr warranty is the way to go. Also they seem very well built.

You've made a good decision IMO. As for reading the specs correctly, it looks like you are, but keep in mind that that tongue weight is for the unloaded trailer and it will rise by the time you have it on the road. But should be within your TV's range.

I would want to know whether my hitch was a Class III or a IV. Don't overlook your ball, although with a WD hitch it should be heavy enough.

You will find your load will pull better in your hometown altitude of about 500' than it will out west. In western Nebraska or Kansas you will be near 4000' and your engine power will be down around ten percent. You may or may not notice the difference. But you will continue to lose power at a rate of approximately three percent per thousand feet of elevation. Should you run I-70 out of Denver, for example, you'll go through the Eisenhower tunnel at 11,000'. Watch your temperatures and don't hesitate to use a lower gear, and keep your rpm's up. Your engine and transmission will thank you.

[Seann45]

Unloaded weight means NOTHING... what matters is how much it weights fully loaded and ready to hit the road.. PLUS you have to add in the weight of all passengers and cargo in the truck.. (driver is assumed to weigh 150 lbs)

[Hamilton Tom]

Originally Posted by cekkk

You've made a good decision IMO. As for reading the specs correctly, it looks like you are, but keep in mind that that tongue weight is for the unloaded trailer and it will rise by the time you have it on the road. But should be within your TV's range.

I would want to know whether my hitch was a Class III or a IV. Don't overlook your ball, although with a WD hitch it should be heavy enough.

You will find your load will pull better in your hometown altitude of about 500' than it will out west. In western Nebraska or Kansas you will be near 4000' and your engine power will be down around ten percent. You may or may not notice the difference. But you will continue to lose power at a rate of approximately three percent per thousand feet of elevation. Should you run I-70 out of Denver, for example, you'll go through the Eisenhower tunnel at 11,000'. Watch your temperatures and don't hesitate to use a lower gear, and keep your rpm's up. Your engine and transmission will thank you.

Thanks for this info. I have read a little about the hitch, although I do plan to have the WD hitch installed. Will I still need to make sure about the ball or will they set me up appropriately.

[cekkk]

Originally Posted by Hamilton Tom

Will I still need to make sure about the ball or will they set me up appropriately.

A great man once said, "Trust, but verify!"

[33 RLDS]

Our 33RLDS sticker says its 8504 LBS. And thats before you put anything in it. Our Avalanche is rated for 12,000 lbs and does a good job pulling it. I think it would be to much tongue weight for a half ton..

[wwsmith111]

What engine do you have and is it a 4 x 4? I have a 2011 Tundra 4 x 2 with the 5.7l V8 with the factory installed tow package and tow a 2014 Jayco Eagle 338rlts which has a gross of 10,700 lbs without any problems. The tongue weight is 1100 lbs. Of course I use an equalizer hitch. I feel I am right at the limit though and I am shopping for a 3/4 ton diesel. We just did a 2000 mile trip to the Keys with no problems at all but a diesel would be better no doubt!

[NewBlackDak]

I have a 287BHBE)6300 lbs on the sticker), and a Titan. Our house is at 4700 ft in Utah, and I have to pull over one pass or another to get out the valley.

I'm shopping for a bigger truck.

[Flyrotor]

Originally Posted by Hamilton Tom

Thanks all for the help. After everyone's input and sleeping on it, we are going to call and cancel.

Smart... one thing no one mentioned is the 35'6" length, add that to the gross weight, payload, tongue weight etc. and it really taxes the Tundra... (or any 1/2 ton truck)