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Old 06-17-2014, 10:34 AM   #1
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Understanding plumbing system

I have not yet used the water system from my 2008 "new to me" 1207, but would like to understand it all prior to actually needing it.

Please let me know if my assumptions are correct. First photo:
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Valve A: from fresh water tank. Valve appears closed.
Valve B: Antifreeze siphon valve? Valve appears closed.
Valve C: Hot water low point drain? Probably open?
Valve D: Cold water low point drain? Open?

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Valve A: Cold water supply in. Valve closed.
Valve B: Hot water out. Valve open.
Valve C: Hot water heater bypass. Valve closed.

Please let me know if my assumptions for these valves, and their open/closed positions is correct or not. Thanks!
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:06 AM   #2
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It appears you are correct.
First photo valves C and D are pushed down to close and pulled up to open. They can be hard to operate at times.
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:23 AM   #3
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Thanks Chuck!
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:32 AM   #4
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I think your opposite on the hot water heater. I thought cold water flowed in the bottom and hot out top since heat rose. All others are correct in there labeling.
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:21 PM   #5
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I think your opposite on the hot water heater. I thought cold water flowed in the bottom and hot out top since heat rose. All others are correct in there labeling.
You are correct 3'senough

Now I have a problem.....

I filled water tank and all looked good. Cold water at the sink, and at the outdoor shower. Closed hot water bypass valve and opened the other two in anticipation of firing up heater. Had immediate spraying leak (not just a drip) right where the supply line is crimped to the elbow connected to the heater. I do not see an obvious crack.

Could this crimp ring simply be not tight enough? I do not have the tool necessary to tighten it.

I also wonder is it possible that it was OVER tightened, and cracked the elbow inside the pipe? If so, is this elbow readily available for replacement, and if so, where?


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Old 06-23-2014, 08:04 PM   #6
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Old 06-23-2014, 08:53 PM   #7
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Yes, plastic probably cracked. If it was not drained and winterized, you could have had water freeze at that point, or, just bad luck.

Typical plumbing hardware will do.... Lowes, Home Depot , ect..

Several treads on cutting that crimp off and replacing with traditional hose clamp. Too much work to save the crimp.

Below, see general water system diagram as well
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Lowes or HD for some replacement parts. You will need to pick up a pex repair kit to crimp them correctly. I know there are members on here who have picked them up for under $20.00 so maybe if you ask about the kit in another thread you will get a response on where to pick it. It very well may be HD or Lowes. I would take off the broken part and examine it then take it with you to replicate.

You could try a pair of channel locks to tighten it since the only other option is to replace it anyway.

Another option is to replace with flexible nylon reinforced poly water hose with clamps. That's how I do some of my mods. Rather than deal with the pex.
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Curious if you use a water regulator. Travel trailers cant handle the same pressure as your home plumbing can.
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Thanks all. I think I found the swivel elbow here: http://www.rvplus.com/vanguard-plast...t-p-41198.html

And a buddy says he has the crimp tool for pex, so will get the part, and head over to his house with a cold case of "thank you".

@threebutchers - the camper has never been connected to city water. I filled the tank via the gravity feed. I do, however, have a water pressure regulator should I ever connect to city water.
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I just took my Eagle in on Saturday to repair the one valve under the sink
Will not open, I looked at it and (said No Way I cannot do this) deductible $ 50.00 and it is done right. Also going to move the line so you can get to it.
I am going to make some recipes cards up so I see the way the valve are to be closed and open for winter and summer.
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Maybe it is the model I purchased, but I rarely use a regulator when I hook to city water. If the campground is fed by a municipal supply, I don't worry about it. If it is fed by it's own well, then I will use one.

the one I bought significantly reduces flow, and is more of a restrictor, than an reducer. AND I always turn off the water supply and water heater when we leave the campground for the day.
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These can be used to remove and tighten pex clamps as well if you work carefully.
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Tagging onto the original question on this thread . . . I have a 2013 Jay Series Pop-up. I've always used the gravity fill and pumped out of the tank. I'm wanting to use the city water connection. The only thing the manual says about the city water connection is that you can use it to fill the tank. Doesn't make any sense to me. I figured the point in using the city water connection is to bypass using the tank. Is my assumption correct? Also, if I use the city water connection, do I need to close the valve shown in Owen's first picture labeled A to prevent water from back-flowing through the pump and into the tank?
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Welcome to the forum dkrieke1995!

Pump is a positive displacement type with check valves...water will not back feed from the discharge side to the tank.
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Thanks for the welcome and the quick answer, mcfarmall.
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