water fill

railrunner74 · 03-30-2015, 10:24 PM

This might sound like a dumb question but what do I need to attach my potable water hose to my water fill tube?* My hose is much smaller than the water fill inlet.

Grumpy · 03-31-2015, 06:05 AM

You don't attach it, just put it in the fill tube and remove it when the tank is full. If you are at a site that has water just for your site connect the hose to the fresh water connection (female hose connection on the side)

railrunner74 · 03-31-2015, 06:20 AM

The opening isn't big enough to put the hose in. I have to hold it there. Kinda hard to do when you have to hold the handle down on the water supply at the same time. I just didn't know if I was doing something wrong or what.

Flapper · 03-31-2015, 06:25 AM

Depends on the brand of RV hose you use - I have one where the end won't fit at all, another where it loosely fits in. I was concerned that it may blow off when I turned on the water, but no issues.
Lately, because one of the hoses sprung a leak between two of the plys (swelled up like a sausage!), I just cut the end off about a foot from the fitting that screws on to other hose ends. Now I just stick the bare hose into the tube a few inches, and all is good.

dewey02 · 03-31-2015, 06:45 AM

Google "Rv water fill tube Amazon". It is only $4. Problem solved.

Seann45 · 03-31-2015, 07:29 AM

Here are 2 you can find them cheaper elsewhere
Water Tank Filler with Shut-Off Valve - Camco 40003 - Fresh Water Pumps - Camping World

Water Tank Filler - Camco 40023 - Fresh Water Pumps - Camping World

railrunner74 · 03-31-2015, 07:39 AM

Thanks a lot...those would probably help a lot.

Jagiven · 03-31-2015, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seann45

Here are 2 you can find them cheaper elsewhere
Water Tank Filler with Shut-Off Valve - Camco 40003 - Fresh Water Pumps - Camping World

Water Tank Filler - Camco 40023 - Fresh Water Pumps - Camping World

I have one of these, they work great. When I run out of water when boondocking, I put a water bandit on my portable water tank and attach the above filler to it, and it makes pouring water into the tank easier too, and a lot less water going down my leg and into my shoes.

SamKelly1965 · 08-04-2015, 11:01 AM

Hi I have a few questions as we just bought a used 2008 jayco 1007 and had a frustrating first weekend.

1. If we use a hose at home (where we are on well water, not city water) in the city fill connection, my understanding is that the water will fill the hot water heater. But when the hot water heater is filled, does the water just stop running even though the water is turned on at the house where the hose is hooked up? Or will it now overflow into the fresh water tank until that is filled? If the water stops, what causes it to just stop? I read that there is a valve somewhere but I cannot find it.

2. At the campsite this weekend, we filled the fresh water tank in the gravity fill. Once it was full and we were at the campsite, we turned on the hot water faucet to fill the hot water heater so that there would be no air in it, and turned on the pump. Five min later, the water was still gurling and spurting. Same with cold water. We were never able to get it to stop spurting. And when we turned the pump off after the faucets were closed, it was still running after five min. No water leaks anywhere, and believe me, I checked. The connection to and from the water pump seems tight. I cannot figure out why we cannot get the air out.

3. We didn't use a pressure regulator when we screwed the hose into city fill because we are on well water at home, so lower pressure. Should we still use it when at home using hose for city fill?

Your help would be appreciated. How long should it take for the tap to stop spurting once you turn the pump on and the tap on? What do we do to get this air out? My husband did not have the hot water heater turned on when we did this, but he said it shouldn't matter.

Iraqvet05 · 08-04-2015, 11:39 AM

SamKelly1965, hello and welcome to the forum. Let me see if I can answer your questions.

1. Gravity does not fill the water heater, only pressurized water from either the city water connection (connected to a pressurized source) or from the on-board water pump drawing water from the water tank. If you fill the fresh water water tank using the gravity fill port, you fill it until the water starts to come out of the overflow tube under the TT...it will not stop on it's own.

2. You need to purge the air at the water heater using the pressure relief valve first.

3. City water connector should be regulated at all times to be on the safe side...especially if you don't know the PSI coming from the well pump.

If you have additional questions, you may want to start a new thread. Hope this helps.

SamKelly1965 · 08-04-2015, 11:57 AM

Thanks for the info:

1. Yes, I had meant that I had read that city fill will fill the water heater. But I had also read that after it was done filling that, there was a valve that you could move so that it would fill the fresh water tank if desired. But I don't think that's the case on my jayco and I have been told by some that city fill will never fill the fresh water tank and by others that it can do so if you change the valve.

2. I cannot seem to find anything that shows me the pressure relief valve, where it is, and which way to turn it. I did not do that. Are you saying that you move this pressure relief valve first and then turn on faucets and run pump to bleed the air?

3. We did not use the city water connecter as we thought we didn't need it for the hose because we are on well. However I assume if we caused a problem, there would be water leaking, and that did not happen so I assume we didn't harm anything?

Jhowemca · 08-04-2015, 01:55 PM

To purge air from the hot water heater...

First turn on the water pump.

Next find this door.

Jhowemca · 08-04-2015, 01:56 PM

Then open the pressure relief valve by pulling on the metal handle until only water comes out.

Jhowemca · 08-04-2015, 01:59 PM

The water from the relief valve wil get everything wet inside the water heater door.
That's ok.
You can turn on the hot water heater and it will dry off soon or just let it sit and the air will dry it out.

Good luck hope this helped

SamKelly1965 · 08-04-2015, 02:12 PM

Ok so to fill the water tank using fresh water not city fill and get air out

1. hose goes in fresh water fill

2. flip open pressure relief valve on hot water heater

2. keep filling fresh water tank until overflow tubes leak water

3. turn on pump for a minute or so (hopefully it will shut off, which it didn't do) to let it reach 45 psi. This pumps water into the water heater? Pressure relief valve on hot water heater should leak some water when hot water tank is full

4. when pump has reached pressure, it should shut off. But how long do I wait if it doesn't shut off?

5. open hot water tap and let tap run for a minute or two which will expel air. How long do I run it (while losing my precious water), if it continues to spurt?

5. close hot water tap and open cold water tap and let run for a minute of so which should expel air. Again, how long should I run it and lose water if it continues to spurt

6. pump should shut off after about a minute, with faucets closed. How long should I wait before I turn it off, if it doesn't shut off

7. light water heater.

Is this correct procedure? Manual sucks!

Jhowemca · 08-04-2015, 02:33 PM

I think you got a good plan. Just remember to close the pressure relief valve when it's spilling only water. When it's done pushing out the air. It should only take a second or two with the pressure valve open. So fast you may not see/hear the air come out.

The pump shouldn't run for more than a few seconds once you have the faucet shut off.

Jhowemca · 08-04-2015, 02:36 PM

Start with the hot water heater. Rule it out first.

If it doesn't stop the pump from running it could be a low point drain opened or just opened a little causing loss of pressure.

SamKelly1965 · 08-04-2015, 03:45 PM

Ok I followed all those steps, water heater fills full, after fresh water tank filled, I turn pump on but it didn't shut off after three min. I ran the hot water, it spurt, ran for two min, still spurting, ran cold water, spurts but not as bad as hot, ran for two min.

Pump still running three months later after faucets closed. How do I find a low point drain that might be open. The only drain open are the overflow/vent tubs on fresh water tank. Where else would I look. All the connections to the water pump seem tight.

SamKelly1965 · 08-04-2015, 04:00 PM

sorry I meant pump still running three min later after faucets closed. Less spurting when we were camping but I think that is just because the tank is fuller.

I read to check the filter coming into pump and that connnector out is tight. They seem to be but I don't want to start unscrewing stuff. The only low point drain is on the fresh water tank and that would obviously be closed since no water is coming out. There is a screw cap on the water heater outside which I assume is it's drain but is tight and I don't want to unscrew it.

Jhowemca · 08-04-2015, 04:20 PM

I think you need to start a new thread.
One that describes your problem (we kinda hijacked this one from the original poster).
You will get more help that way.

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