Did some retro camping Sept. 7-9, 2012 at Warren Dunes. Used a canvas tent covered by a ginormous silver tarp. It stormed Saturday night but we stayed super dry...could barely see the lightnning except through the windows. I prefer the 23B over the tent, but it was nice to get back to basics for a couple of nights. We ran power into the tent to run our mini fridge and camp lamp!! Enjoyed a gorgeous Lake Michigan sunset and beautiful moonlit nights.