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Old 12-05-2011, 11:53 PM   #1
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Diesel additive in sub zero weather

I will be driving my 2011 F350 diesel to Montana from California for the first time in two weeks. I will hit freezing temperatures from Utah on. I know that I will need to use a cold weather diesel additive beginning in Utah. What brand is the best? Since I haven't been able to purchase cold weather additive in Southern California, will it be easy to find in Southern Utah? Will I need to go to a truck stop or will regular service stations that carry diesel also carry the additive? Last question, I understand that some stations switch over to a winter blend, does this mean I don't need additive at all? I really appreciate any and all help and advice that I can get. Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:38 AM   #2
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You can buy Amsoil on line or I'm sure they sell it in Calf. The following is what they have to say about the AMSOIL Diesel Concentrate Plus Cold Flow.

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One 16-oz. bottle of AMSOIL Diesel Concentrate Plus Cold Flow Improver treats 40 gallons of fuel. Diesel Concentrate Plus Cold Flow Improver will show no signs of solidifying in its concentrated state in the bottle until the temperature reaches -22°F (-30°C). It will only freeze in its concentrated state, and AMSOIL recommends storing it at temperatures above 0°F (-18°C). If Diesel Concentrate Plus Cold Flow Improver is allowed to freeze in the bottle it can be thawed and used. When mixed with diesel fuel, Diesel Concentrate Plus Cold Flow Improver effectively improves diesel fuel cold-temperature properties. It is important to treat fuel before it has reached its cloud point as Diesel Concentrate Plus Cold Flow Improver will not dissolve wax crystals which have already formed in the fuel.

AMSOIL Diesel Concentrate Plus Cold Flow Improver meets federal regulations for ULSD fuel. It complies with federal low-sulfur content requirements for use in diesel motor vehicles and non-road engines. While Diesel Concentrate Plus Cold Flow Improver is formulated specifically for ULSD fuel, it also performs well with non-ULSD fuels, including biodiesel.

AMSOIL Diesel Concentrate Plus Cold Flow Improver is specifically formulated to improve the lubrication of fuel system components, improve fuel flow, help maintain fuel integrity and prevent the fuel filter and injectors from clogging. Diesel Concentrate Plus Cold Flow Improver is recommended for diesel-powered vehicles, home heating oil and kerosene heating systems.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:22 AM   #3
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Wal-Mart has the additive.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:38 AM   #4
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You can find Powerstroke formulas online or XDP (Xtreme Diesel Performance) for their Polar-D Winter formula. I use the regular fromula additive. One 16oz bottle goes 500 gallons. Simple measure cup attached to get the right percentages and works well. For the final prices per gallon used you can't beat it. The normal formula is 1oz per 38 gallons. I am happy with the results thus far and have used the Kleen and Powerstroke additives in the past with comparable results but at a higher cost per gallon added.
Maybe Google diesel additives for cold weather to get some reviews by actual usage.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:37 AM   #5
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Save money buy a large bottle or 2 in Mt and then just do premeasured shots I add lucas fuel additive every tankful while towing and every other tankful driving solo.
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:19 PM   #6
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When you get to the colder climate the diesel will already be formulated for winter temperatures. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:22 PM   #7
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Thanks everyone. I already use regular diesel additive with each fill up. It sounds like I should continue to do that on my trip and count on the filling stations to be using the winter formula. I live in Corona CA which is Lucas Oil's International headquarters. I am sure if I stop by they will give me a free sample...not! Joking aside, Lucas Oil makes great products. I didn't know that they made diesel additive. Thanks Sean. I have also heard great things about Amsoil products and there is also a dealer in Corona. I guess it will come down to which ever I find first. Thanks everyone.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:59 PM   #8
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Winter diesel conditioners have anti gel additives fuel will thicken up with cold temps. Diesel is also subject to alge growth and will cause a filter to like like it is filtering Jello. Working at an implement dealer ship I see all kinds of fuel issues. As soon as you hit the cold weather I would use fuel conditioner that is a winter formula. We have both John Deere and Startron brands.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:42 PM   #9
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I say don't chance it. Keep the diesel supplement in your vehicle. You can get it at most Walmart stores. If you are back east most fuel stations are nearby. In western states you may be 50 miles from the nearest help. As a Wyoming resident I have experienced my diesel gel at 60 below zero. Very bad experience. I would rather have too much supplement than not enough. Carry extra in your vehicle.
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Thanks. I am going to try to find winter supplement at the Pilot/Flying J in St. George. I hope I don't ever experience 60 below though. The lowest I have seen in Montana was 28 below and that was cold enough for me.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:16 AM   #11
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Diesel fuel already has the additive in it. You don't need to add anything.
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Yea. I read on a diesel truck forum that diesel #2 doesn't start to gel until 10 degrees or lower. Winter blend is a blend of diesel #1 and diesel #2 and it won't gel until well below zero. Additive helps in both cases. I truly appreciate everyone's input. I am a newbie when it comes to diesel.
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We have had diesel trucks for the last 13 years and we live in North Idaho. We do get winter there and we have never had to add anything to the fuel. In my opinion the need for additives is something that the additive people have created.
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We have had diesel trucks for the last 13 years and we live in North Idaho. We do get winter there and we have never had to add anything to the fuel. In my opinion the need for additives is something that the additive people have created.
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Feeling kind of stupid. I have been worrying for weeks about having issues with my diesel fuel in the cold weather. Today when I filled up I read the label of the additive that I have been using. The brand has two formulas, one for all season and the other for winter. Guess what. The all season protects the diesel to 40 below. Lesson learned....read the label.
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The truck stops should have it also. Ranching in Wyoming now. Used to live in Torrance long long ago.
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I use a conditioner sold by a company of the name Conklin. Supposed to drop the gel point 20 or 30 degrees, I forget which. Have used it in my diesel, which i just sold, since I bought it and have never had it gel. Use three ounces for normal conditioning and six ounces when the weather gets cold. Pretty expensive, but it goes a long way. Good luck on your search.
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I use a conditioner sold by a company of the name Conklin. Supposed to drop the gel point 20 or 30 degrees, I forget which. Have used it in my diesel, which i just sold, since I bought it and have never had it gel. Use three ounces for normal conditioning and six ounces when the weather gets cold. Pretty expensive, but it goes a long way. Good luck on your search.
You are probably talking about Fuel Mate. It is expencive and most likely dosn't do much more than lighten your wallet.
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clutch, it's actually Diesel Plus and I truly believe it adds a bit of lubricity to the diesel that was taken out when we went to ultra low sulphur diesel a few years ago.
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clutch, it's actually Diesel Plus and I truly believe it adds a bit of lubricity to the diesel that was taken out when we went to ultra low sulphur diesel a few years ago.
Yup, I forgot about diesel Plus. We have been with Conklin since 1979. Mostly inactive.
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