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Old 07-30-2014, 09:10 AM   #21
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where should i go from here? any ideas on make? curt? equal-i-zer? easylift? reese?
I would go with a Reese WDH Round Spring Bar w/600lb max tongue weight (#65509), or equivalent. This set-up doesn't come with a hitch ball, just purchase a 2" diameter hitch ball with a 1 1/4" diameter shank (or use your existing if proper shank size). This WDH will fit a TV receiver with a 2" pin box.

Reese WDH #65509: http://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Distr...e/RP65509.html

Hitch Ball Diameter 2", 1 1/4" dia. shank, 1 5/8" lg. shank: http://www.etrailer.com/p-A-90.html

You will also need a standard friction control sway arm.

Just food for thought.

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Old 07-30-2014, 11:25 PM   #22
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ok thanks...anyone else have 2 cents to throw at me?
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I will defer to Bob's (Rustic Eagle) experience here, but I like the Equal-i-zer with integrated 4 point sway. I really like those hitches, and as soon as I can come up with the cash, I'll have one of my own.

Either way, I would stick with Equal-i-zer or Reese...
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If the hitch is setup per written instructions it's not going to transfer it's full potential transfer weight unless it's needed. I believe all the bars work from zero weight transfer to max based upon setup.

However: If the design of the hitch is weight distrubution and sway control such as with the Equalizer hitch you would give up sway control if using heavy bars on light loads. This would reduce the friction and in that process reduce the lateral stiffness built into this design.

If the hitch is a chain type connection between bars and A frame then there is no lateral stiffness in the design to lose and here it would make no difference.

Sway comes from a lateral shift at the coupler, that is when the trailer is headed slightly east and forces the truck to head slightly west. You feel that in the wheel and see it in the mirror. Lateral stiffness in the hitch reduces this effect.

So it's important to have your hitch setup correctly and to take full advantage of the friction (lateral stiffness) you should be somewhat close to max on your bars.
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:55 AM   #25
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snip..... but I like the Equal-i-zer with integrated 4 point sway. I really like those hitches,....snip
The one stand-out advantage the Equal-i-zer WDH has over the particular model Reese WDH I recommended in my prior post is that the Equal-i-zer has integrated sway control in lieu of the added friction sway control arm.

Reese also offers a WDH with integrated sway control in their "Strait-Line (Dual Cam)" models, or the integrated Dual Cam sway control can be added later to the Reese WDH model identified in my earlier post.

I agree, Equal-izer and Reese with integrated sway control are superior WDH's.

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I use a equilizer hitch and have not had an issue i always check all the nuts and bolts after i use it as the directions say too , just my two
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Hey guys thanks so much for the input. I feels good to get some real feedback. Looks like I'm leaning towards the equalizer set-up... we have a 184bh Baja edition. it says tongue weight is 350# and total is 3500# loaded... what should I be shooting for in terms of weight?
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Should I use a system close to 350# limit or a bit more?
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You definately want to check with a hitch specialist but a 6k would probably work
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Should I use a system close to 350# limit or a bit more?
RV and WDH manufacture's recommend a loaded tongue range is 10% to 15% of the TT's loaded weight. Based on the limited CCC of the 184BH, the TT's loaded weight will in most cases be close to or at it's GVWR of 3,500lbs.

So (10% to 15%) of 3,500lb GVWR = 350lb to 525lb tongue weight range.

In your first post it was stated your TT tongue weight is "close to 400lbs with my battery boxes", so a WDH with a 600lb tongue weight rating remains my recommendation...., and your covered for worst case loaded tongue weight condition as well.

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I had ask a hitch question of my dealer's setup man recently....across the scale I show a tongue weight of approx. 1200 lbs.....my concern was my EazLift bars are rated 1000 lbs....his reply is that's 1000 lbs per bar and with 2 bars that's a total of 2000 lbs so, therefore, my tongue weight of 1200 lbs is well within the limit....any thoughts??
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snip..his reply is that's 1000 lbs per bar and with 2 bars that's a total of 2000 lbs so, therefore, my tongue weight of 1200 lbs is well within the limit....any thoughts??
He's incorrect.

If your scaled "loaded" tongue weight is in fact 1,200lbs and reflects your normal loading, I would move up to a 1,200lb rated WDH minimum. I don't know about EazLift WDH's, but with some WDH manufactures all you have to do is change-out the spring bars (trunnion style bars only, not round bars).

Back to your RV dealer setup man's comment......: The 1,000lbs is actually the individual spring bar's "load" capability (tension), meaning it's ability to produce a force (thru leverage) to distribute weight. The two spring bars together have the capability to generate a downward force of 2,000lbs at the TT ball coupler....., but that's only a small part of the physics behind a WDH.

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He's incorrect.

If your scaled "loaded" tongue weight is in fact 1,200lbs and reflects your normal loading, I would move up to a 1,200lb rated WDH minimum. I don't know about EazLift WDH's, but with some WDH manufactures all you have to do is change-out the spring bars (trunnion style bars only, not round bars).

Back to your RV dealer setup man's comment......: The 1,000lbs is actually the individual spring bar's "load" capability (tension), meaning it's ability to produce a force (thru leverage) to distribute weight. The two spring bars together have the capability to generate a downward force of 2,000lbs at the TT ball coupler....., but that's only a small part of the physics behind a WDH.

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Have just ordered 2 replacement Eaz-Lift 1400# spring bars because of my tongue weight....that was what the next size was that I could find where I could buy just the bars and not have to buy the complete WDH assembly.....this, I hope, will provide the safety and ride I need.....

Can I still draw up to the 3rd chain link as I had been doing with 1000# bars and get the weight distribution that I previously had?

Will I notice any difference in the ride with the 1400# bars as compared to the 1000# bars?

Appreciate your comments, Rustic Eagle....Thanks.
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snip.....Can I still draw up to the 3rd chain link as I had been doing with 1000# bars and get the weight distribution that I previously had?......snip
Not likely...., but what I would recommend is a visit to a CAT scale with your loaded TV/TT combination, this is the only way to dial-in a WDH correctly and confirm all your weights. Everyone should preform a CAT scale weigh-in at least once on a given TV/TT combo.

CAT scale TV/TT how-to: http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3871

Feel free to start your own thread and report back with your CAT results for additional review and comment if you like.

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snip.....Will I notice any difference in the ride with the 1400# bars as compared to the 1000# bars?....snip
Yes, but for the better. The 1,400lb spring bars when adjusted properly will provide "consistent" weight distribution thus producing enhanced TV handling of the TT. You may also find that the 1,400lb bars will stabilize the TV/TT faster under less then ideal road surface conditions as well.

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