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09-14-2014, 05:24 PM
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New to JOF and electrical question
Hi all. New here to post, but not to read and search all of the great information. I searched and think I found my issue, but want to double-check. Camping this weekend and connected to shore power at campground. 30amp. Everything working great for 1.5 days. Last night, no shore power (although still hooked up). Pedestal power good, no fuses blown, no breakers tripped. Battery not charging either. Only outlets and micro have power. All lights super dim. Get up this morning, same scenario. Start checking all connections all look good. Decide to remove inline surge protector from CG pedestal power and plug in directly. Go back inside and everything is working perfectly. Go back out, plug surge protector back in to pedestal. Go back in camper, everything is still working perfectly. Come home, plug in with 110 and adapter, everything works perfect. I think my Iota DLS-45 is going out. Blocking shore power from 12 volt DC units and not charging? Am I right? Thanks
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09-14-2014, 05:28 PM
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welcome
maybe it is a faulty surge protector..they do go bad...what kind is it?
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09-14-2014, 06:00 PM
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It is a Surge Guard model 44260, 120V 30AMP, 2100 Joules. It is brand new, but I guess that is not a guarantee. Something I did leave out in the initial post (brevity I suppose) was that it did occur at my house about 2 weeks ago (but the surge protector was not in use then). I tightened every electrical connection in the fuse/circuit/converter area. It started to work. I hoped that was it. I am guessing this is all just coincidence.
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09-14-2014, 06:01 PM
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On a 30 amp service if your surge was going bad you would not have had power to anything. No micro and no outlets no nothing. It sounds more like a converter issue.
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09-14-2014, 06:10 PM
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Agree with possible converter issue. If surge protector was faulty...micro and outlets wouldn't work either...as see it.
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09-14-2014, 06:16 PM
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oh...just reading that part now about outlets...I read the part about "last night, no shore power"
must be the converter
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09-14-2014, 06:19 PM
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I believe on my old IOTA Converter/Charger there were one or two DC reverse polarity fuses....., check that they aren't compromised (loose, etc.).
Bob
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09-14-2014, 06:48 PM
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Rustic Eagle, you are correct there are two. They are good. I replaced both when it occurred a few weeks ago (although neither looked bad). Symptoms seem to be the same, random sporadic failure.
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09-14-2014, 07:29 PM
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Just trying to rule out all possibilities short of a bad IOTA...; are all the ground screw lugs tight at the fuse panel, to frame, etc....., or maybe a bad breaker?
Bob
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09-14-2014, 07:48 PM
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Screws are all tight. No signs of a weak or bad breaker either. I appreciate the help. I don't want to spend $150 on a new converter and still have the same problem.
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09-14-2014, 08:21 PM
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Is your IOTA free standing or attached to the back of the Load Center (fuse panel), and what year is your trailer?
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09-15-2014, 06:56 AM
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Freestanding. It is mounted on the wall about 16 inches from the load center. It is a 2006 Jayfeather 19h.
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09-15-2014, 07:07 AM
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When you mentioned IOTA in your first post, I figured it was a pre-2007 model. The fact that it is a remote unit is good, much easier to R&R if it comes to that. Also, the IOTA is a 2-stage unit, most of the newer Jayco converter/chargers are 3-4 stage non-IOTA products......, much better for battery life.
"If" you find that the IOTA is still good, you can make the unit a 4 stage unit simply by adding a IQ4 Smart Charger (about $25)..., plugs into the back of most IOTA's (not the ones that mount to the back of the Load Center). Look for the dual voltage jack on the back of the IOTA.
http://www.iotaengineering.com/iq.htm
Bob
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09-15-2014, 07:13 AM
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I saw that jack on my Iota unit for a rapid charger. Does it just plug in there and that is it? No other connections necessary?
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09-15-2014, 07:15 AM
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Yep, just plug it in.
Bob
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09-15-2014, 02:43 PM
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That makes for one easy install. Thanks for your help Rustic Eagle.
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09-15-2014, 07:30 PM
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One last question/possibility. If I did not have the power cord pulled out of the camper all of the way, could having the extra bit (<5-ft) left in its storage area cause enough heat to disrupt the converter?
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09-15-2014, 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sw7000
snip...... could having the extra bit (<5-ft) left in its storage area cause enough heat to disrupt the converter?
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IMO it wouldn't have any effect.
Bob
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