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Old 04-01-2011, 07:10 AM   #1
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Jay Flight Swift SLX Axle

Someone has posted some info on another forum about all the jay flight swift SLX's axle and tires under or at the dry weight listed for the 184bh, and busts the 15bh as soon as you put anything on it.

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fu...9.cfm#24916969

I find this a bit disturbing. Can anyone weigh in on this? I have placed a deposit and awaiting for delivery of a 184bh, which way busts the axle & tires weight limit as stated in that post. I have sent them an email, and posed the question on facebook http://www.facebook.com/JaycoRVs. Im quite concerned about this since it is to be behind a minivan with my family.

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 04-01-2011, 08:09 AM   #2
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Great now I am stressing out about mine as well. I have a call into the dealer to check into the tire/axel sizing. You would think that since it made it into production that they would make sure everything is ok?

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Old 04-01-2011, 10:36 AM   #3
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Wow! This is some disconcerting news for Swift owners. I think this may be the first that any of the members here may have heard of it because the Swift is so new

I was actually delighted to hear that mini-van owners had a more spacious tt option than the less roomy Casita. Even our little Casita had 14" tires.

Thanks for bringing this info over to our Jayco specific forum. Definitely pass onto the members here all the info you can gather from Jayco/Dexter.

(BTW - I'm posting this also (closed) in the Tech forum with a link to this thread.)
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:28 AM   #4
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My dealer called me back and let me know the 184BH does have 14" tires rated at 1760#. That would fix that issue, I am not sure on the axle but I would bet it is upgraded as well.

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Old 04-02-2011, 07:56 PM   #5
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I got some info from the dealer:


184BH Jay Flight Swift SLX
VIN 7E
SLEEPS 4-5

Dimensions
Wheel base: 161 - 5/16"
Exterior/Travel length: 20' 0"
Exterior box size: 16' 10"
Exterior height: 101"
Exterior height with A/C: 101"
Interior height: 73"
Exterior width: 84"
Electric brake size: 10 x 2 - 1/4"
Hitch ball height: 17"
Hitch ball coupler size: 2"
Entrance door width: 22"
Weights
Approx. total UVW (dry wt.): 2735
Approx. dry axle w/standard equipment: 2455
Approx. dry hitch: 280
GVWR: 3500
GAWR: 3000
Approx. Gross Cargo Carrying Capacity (GCCC): 765
Tire load capacity: 1760
Capacities
Fresh water tank (gals.): 20
Gray water tank (gals.): 15
Black water/toilet tank (gals.): 9
Furnace (BTU output): 18M
Propane (lbs.): 20
Propane (gals.): 4.7
Water heater (gals.): 6
Seating & Sleeping
Sofa: 24 x 64
Dinette: 54 x 80
Bunks: 30 x 76
Miscellaneous
# of outside storage compartments: 1
Tire size: ST205/75R14 C
Insulation values
Sidewalls: R7
Roof: R7
Floor: R7

So for the weight, seems to be beefier, but it has to be a different axle than the 145rb, which others report the GAVW of 2700lb.

For the 184bh, what is the difference between "Approx. total UVW (dry wt.): 2735" and "Approx. dry axle w/standard equipment: 2455", isnt that the same thing?

The "GVWR: 3500" bust the axle capacity "GAWR: 3000" does it not, if it was a 10% hitch weight (3500 - 10% = 3150, that is > 3000)? The tires are good for 3500, but is is ok to have everything so close with numbers? Is this normal tolerances for TT's?

I love the look/feel/size of this trailer, but I just have a minvan to tow with, which would not be to forthcoming if an issue arose on the road with the axle, vs a truck which could handle any problems in a better manor.

Sorry for all the questions, this is my first TT, and i want it to be an amazing experience with family!

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Old 04-03-2011, 05:10 AM   #6
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Quick question, I just bought the 17z. It only has 13 inch wheels with a single axle. Will it have the same issue as the swift?
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:20 AM   #7
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From what I see on tire web sites I don't see any 13" tires that are rated to carry your max loaded trailer weight. I would say you should contact your dealer and have them give you an explanation and breakdown showing the weights are safe/not safe.

I will crawl under my 18BH on Tuesday at pick up and have a look at the axle size. I guess depending on what I find out it could be a deal breaker. I hope not, I am sure Jayco did there homework and built it to be safe.
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Just as an FYI while everyone is checking thier trailer tires for the correct ratings( I plan to do the same) those of you that have minivans may want check if they have a "spacesaver spare tire or standard tire" as I doubt that the" spacesavers" are rated to do much more than hold air.
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Just as an FYI while everyone is checking thier trailer tires for the correct ratings( I plan to do the same) those of you that have minivans may want check if they have a "spacesaver spare tire or standard tire" as I doubt that the" spacesavers" are rated to do much more than hold air.
Yep. A dedicated tow vehicle should have a full sized spare!
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Just as an FYI while everyone is checking thier trailer tires for the correct ratings( I plan to do the same) those of you that have minivans may want check if they have a "spacesaver spare tire or standard tire" as I doubt that the" spacesavers" are rated to do much more than hold air.
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Yep. A dedicated tow vehicle should have a full sized spare!
Makes me think of something we learned while towing our little Casita.....

Our mini-van has those "run-flat" tires. We were pretty concerned about them had we had the misfortune of them being compromised somehow. Two different tire shops said that if towing when using a "doughnut" or a compromised "run flat", slow to 45 mph (with hazard lights flashing) and head to nearest exit to get it fixed immediately. Basically though, to never tow with anything other than the correct tire on tv.

This was a great thread to start. Hope those axle/wheel issues can be resolved for everyone
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