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Old 03-18-2014, 12:58 PM   #11
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IMHO quieter is better in all generator applications especially in camping situations . We commonly camp in groups at different rallys throughout the year . Hookups not available . Everyone appreciates a quiet generator in group gatherings . Nice thing about the rallys I go to if your generator is quiet you can run it all night long .
In this case then it would make sense.
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:42 AM   #12
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Here, here, Adk! I bought the same Champion for two reasons: 1) it's the only gen I could find that has the 30A TT outlet built in - no adapter to forget/lose; 2) Cabela's had them on sale for a ridiculously low price. It will power everything (including my A.C.), and if I'm boon docking and have trouble sleeping while it's running, I have ear plugs.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:00 AM   #13
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Bingo!!!!!

So with that case alone why would I buy the Honda's over the Champion when it doesn't make a bit of difference how much quieter they are? It's not like I'm going to get any additional run time.Hmmmmm.
Hmmm, and the answer is that I don't recommend Hondas so you can defy CG rules although many will allow you to run the quiet ones longer, but because when they are running during gen hours you aren't driving your neighbors crazy and you can sit outside and actually carry on a conversation.

But then like I said before, there have been hundreds of threads on this subject and they all end up the same. Remember the saying, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity [Einstein]. Buy what you want, but there is a true winner in the genny [inverter] world.
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I have a 2KW Honda Generator verses Ranger story as well...

We was heading for ELKMONT CAMP in the Smokys from NC on one trip and was getting into ELKMONT around 2PM. Got all checked in and pretty much setup with my OFF-ROAD POPUP. I was dying for a cup of coffee so thought maybe I could sneak a quick five minute generator run time to brew up a pot of coffee. My 2KW Generator sits secured in the tailgate corner of my covered truck bed so I got my Cuisinart bean grind and brew coffee maker all setup and started my 2KW generator in the be of my truck. I closed the tail gate back up and had just cracked the other end of the folding bed cover with a stick. My coffee was grinding and then started it's five minute brew when the Ranger walks ups. He was doing his usual greeting for the new check-ins...


We chatted a minute and was leaning on the front of my truck with the generator still running in the covered truck bed. He never said a word... Then I asked what the generator hours were and he replied 8AM to 10AM in the morning and 4:30PM to 7:30 PM in afternoon.

Then I mentioned I was dying for a cup of coffee and didn't have any made up in the thermos so went ahead and started brewing up a pot. Told hi the generator was running in my truck bed now...

He jumps away form the truck and walked around to the tailgate area. I dropped the tail gate and there it was purring away. My coffee brew light has just gone out so I poured him and myself a cup of good ole fresh brewed bean coffee...

He said I can't believe I couldn't hear your generator running...

I shut down the the generator and We chatted until we finished our coffee. Then he handed back my coffee cup and went on his way down the camp site road...

True story a few years back at ELKMONT CAMP inside the Smoky Mtn Natl Park...

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Old 03-19-2014, 10:39 AM   #15
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I was wondering how the other generators compare to Honda generators as far as noise level and power quality. I have a Jayco23j that I want to power up when I am boondocking.
IMO Honda and Yamaha generators seem to be about the same when it comes to noise level and quality, both extremely popular brands. There are other "inverter" based brand generators that may provide similar reduced noise levels as well, and may also share some similar quality characteristics. The best thing to do is compare spec sheets.

The non 'inverter' type generators tend to have higher noise levels associated with them, but at the end of the day for basic boondocking needs they get the job done.

A couple of things to consider when looking into generators is weight, and if you plan to run a A/C. I have a Yamaha EF 2400iSCH and weighs in at about 75lbs, I wouldn't want anything heavier because I do move my genny around frequently.
If you want to run a single 13.5 btu A/C, a 2400 watt minimum genny is required for most applications.

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If you want to run a single 13.5 btu A/C, a 2400 watt minimum genny is required for most applications.

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What would the minimum be for a 15,000 btu A/C ?
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What would the minimum be for a 15,000 btu A/C ?
Good question...., but last summer I talked to a fellow camper using a Honda 3000 running his single 15k A/C in his FW. This was in the Michigan UP so we weren't at a high altitude but temps were in the upper 80's.

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I have a Yamaha 2400 inverter. So far so good and it's as quiet as a Honda. I have not used it with the air conditioner yet but many claim it will handle it. It's easy to start and is pretty fuel efficient.
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The air conditioning question is the only thing you need an answer on when deciding on a generator. If you decide you need the air conditioning then you need some head room on the service from the generator. We camped without hookups for 20 years showing dogs and never ran the air. Back in that time we used a 1500watt very quiet generator made by Yamaha. We got by with it.
The Honda EU2000 looks to be perfect for that type use today. 2 of these in parallel would allow you the same service as normal 30amp service but at rated load your fuel consumption goes down to just a few hours (perhaps 4) run time with the air running.

2 gens in parallel with air running at full load -2 gal in 4 hours = $1.75/hr x 24 = $42.00/day cost of fuel.

1 gen running at 1/4 load no air = 1gal in 9 hours = $.38/hr = $9.33/day

Note: Using $3.50/gal

Let me think----------turn the air off and enjoy the shade outside.
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In the Honda vs Yamaha or whatever.. consider that the Honda has a fuel pump and will run off an outboard motor tank. We get 24 hours run time on ours..
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