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Old 12-05-2018, 02:31 PM   #1
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Anyone tried hauling ~300 lbs on back of tt?

I am considering getting a scooter (200 lbs) to take with when we camp. I have 2 options to haul it. 1) lift it or roll it up a ramp into the back of my truck 2) get a receiver welded on my trailer and put it back there on a rack. I figured with the hitch+rack+scooter= ~300 lbs. I have 2 concerns about this 1) I might not have enough tongue weight after adding weight to the back and, if so, can I load differently to compensate for this? 2) can my tt frame handle that much weight?

Anyone have experience hauling this much weight off the back of a trailer? I really am looking for actual experience...I respect opinions but experience or technical knowledge is what will help me.
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:21 PM   #2
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I don't have clear experience so I will keep it short.

The TT frame can easily handle that much weight. If you are talking about mounting it to the bumper, then no. Bad idea.

I used to use a shoreline scale to measure the tongue weight. If you have access to one, you could effectively take a couple measurements with a couple people standing on your TT bumper to see how that effects your tongue weight.?

Good luck to ya!
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:14 PM   #3
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Great idea! I have access to a free scale on a military base so I could easily do that. Thanks!

I plan to get a hitch welded to the frame.
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:20 PM   #4
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Sorry, no "Actual" experience but maybe some free advice? Our Jayco 5th wheel came installed with a receiver from the factory and I believe it's rated to tow a small vehicle. That said, if your rig didn't come with one you may be voiding a warranty by adding one after the fact. If that's not an issue, skip any bumper-type mount and have something added to the frame. Once you do that, 300# shouldn't be an issue. The added weight might actually offset (counter balance) the tongue/hitch weight for you. - Good Luck
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:27 PM   #5
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Hey Collinp,

I use to have a Thor Tahoe TT that I added a tray off the back. I welded two receivers off both frame rails. We did a lot of dry camping with it and I used the tray to haul water, fuel and a small generator. I would typically have 30 gallons of water, 10 gallons of fuel plus the generator. My guess is I had at lease 350 lbs not counting the weight of the tray (which was built pretty beefy).

To me the most important part is that you recognize that it will have an effect on your tongue weight. There is a great video on YouTube that shows what can happen to a trailer when it's loaded wrong. Here is the link:

https://youtu.be/6mW_gzdh6to

Sounds like you understand that already but it's fun to watch. Looking forward to seeing some pictures of your finished product.

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Old 12-06-2018, 09:54 AM   #6
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Sicario built a really nice one that I am sure would handle the weight you're look in at.
Post # 16 in this thread https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f...r-46330-2.html

I'm sure he would be able to give some details on it. He really seems to know his stuff.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:48 AM   #7
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I'm not saying yes or no. But there's another issue you might consider. Putting any significant weight off the rear of the trailer might contribute to or aggravate a sway condition.
I know a person who loaded two full-dressed motorcycles in the rear of a toy-hauler camping trailer. The trailer started to sway severely and because of the heavy rear end it could not be controlled. The trailer broke the hitch and rolled into the ditch, totally destroying the camping trailer and the motorcycles.
I'm not saying that putting just a few hundred pounds off the rear end would make a difference, I'm just pointing out a possibility.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:16 PM   #8
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I'd worry about sway, too.




Seems to me the truck bed would be a safer option for the scooter.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:34 PM   #9
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Have you looked at the front mount receivers for the truck. They are rated pretty high wieght
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Front mount receiver on truck or in back of truck. If you look at a lot of videos and pictures of wrecks, many of them have crap on the back of the trailer. Very dangerous.
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:31 PM   #11
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I'd put the scooter in the bed of the truck or a front bumper hitch IF I just had to have that scooter with me. Or put a hitch on the rear of the TT, and pull a small utility trailer if legal in your area.
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:01 PM   #12
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Factory rear hitch is rated for 300, guess they factored in these issues.
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:06 PM   #13
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I saw a setup like the one pictured...only it was on the front of a Ford Excursion.
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Old 12-13-2018, 08:07 AM   #14
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I'd go with the hitch mounted to the front of the truck. I have also seen a rail you can mount on the trailer tongue if you have room between the propane tanks and house batteries, etc. I have a Class A and was wanting to haul my dirt bike (Yamaha 250) along. I looked into the motorcycle lifts you weld to the frame of the RV but they are very expensive and the back of the RV is low enough as is. Thought about one of those dual receiver setups but, even though it is a light bike and within the capacity of the receiver, that would still put the weight on the RV. So, onto the pickup we tow it was. There are solutions that allow you to carry a four-wheeler (ATV, golf cart, etc.) on top of the bed leaving the bed free to carry stuff. I could have also put it in the bed but both solutions are too high off the ground for me to feel comfortable loading it and (especially) unloading it myself (I would have totally done this 50 years ago when I started riding...). So, I got a nice single rail carrier for the back of the pickup.
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I carry a Honda Grom on the back of my trailer. I have not had any issues with swaying. I purchased a hitch on Amazon and bolted it to the trailer. I also added a front hitch, but have not used it yet.


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Old 12-29-2018, 03:14 PM   #16
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I too carry a Grom on the back of my Jayco TT. I had a local welding shop weld on an eTrailer receiver to my frame. I've had no issues whatsoever. I do check the receiver/frame regularly for any issues. I also have the option to leave the Grom home and put on a tray and carry my Honda 3k genny. As it relates to the tongue weight change, I did install 2- 6V golf cart batteries on the front of the camper, so there is a little offset there. But again, I have had no issues whatsoever in 3 years.
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Interesting. I have some Airhead BMW motorcycles and would like to take one with me. They average about 470 pounds wet. I'd prefer a mount parallel to the rear of the TT.

Sounds like I'm looking at a frame mount............
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Since you are on a Jayco forum I assume you have a Jayco trailer. Many of them are already set up for a bolt on Jayco receiver hitch rated for 300 lbs. Look under the rear of your trailer and see if you have flanges attached to the rear of the frame. If you do you are set up for their hitch. Here is a picture of the hitch part number...
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Since you are on a Jayco forum I assume you have a Jayco trailer. Many of them are already set up for a bolt on Jayco receiver hitch rated for 300 lbs. Look under the rear of your trailer and see if you have flanges attached to the rear of the frame. If you do you are set up for their hitch. Here is a picture of the hitch part number...
Copy, thanks. I just picked up a new 2018 Jay Flight 264BHW.

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