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Old 07-21-2021, 12:35 PM   #41
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People definitely don't know about rules or care to learn. They walk through our camp, their kids walk through our camp. Their dogs are unleashed. Every trip I walk my dogs on leash and someone's unleashed dog runs up on us. One guy even accused my leashed dog of being aggressive white house unleashed dog was going after mine! We had people drinking and loudly partying next to us at 2 AM. Often the camps personnel do nothing, not wanting to confront people or unreachable after 5PM. This is why we boondock when we can or stay at nice resorts when affordable.
Lots of entitled people out there.
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Absolutely, We were at a RV Park in Sevierville, TN in May. They are now renting Golf Carts. Rules say children cannot operate Golf Carts but they were and the Park did nothing. Had one group ride their Golf Cart through our Camp Site. People in general today do not follow rules anywhere.
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Old 07-21-2021, 12:41 PM   #43
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Oh, don't tell me that. We're on our way to Pigeon Forge soon.
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Ok for us the worst resort neighbors play their outside speakers too loud (even when they leave their site for town) and leaving outside lights on all night - disturbing our quiet and dark nights.

As said the influx of novice campers who think they need to bring their neighborhood from home to the camp location.

Solution - find very expensive ($60/night and up) sites or boondock for free. Novice campers with noisy kids, loose pets, and bad behavior avoid both types of campsites for obvious reasons.

'Love thy neighbor' sometimes means '...from afar'
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Old 07-21-2021, 01:02 PM   #45
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We've noticed that in our favorite Key West campground, the clientele changes in early March (spring break crowd). I wandered into the campground office one morning to witness the owner (tiny little old gal) explaining to a thirtysomething fellow that she had explained last night what the rules are, and that he had to leave NOW! He asked how long he had and she replied that in 10 minutes she was calling the Sherriff and since he was her brother, he usually came promptly. Fastest teardown and departure of a fifth wheel you ever saw. Never learned what they did but I'm supposing it wasn't legal.
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Old 07-21-2021, 01:18 PM   #46
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Has anyone else noticed an extreme decline in campground "courtesy/behavior" this summer compared to a few years ago???
My wife and I have managed a campground for six years now, and it's by far the worse year for camper behaviour. We've chalked it up as Covid craziness.
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Us too !!!
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Old 07-21-2021, 01:48 PM   #48
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Give it another year. Once all these new people start paying for storage and those monthly payments start stacking up and the kids want to go back to the water parks.
I think things will change. RVing is sort of a life style and not cheep. If your married you both better like doing it. My wife and I are new just been doing it for 25yrs its nice to have your own bed at night. And we meet a lot of interesting people. It is nice meeting people from different parts of the country and sometimes other countries. And sometimes you can learn something new
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If the campground isn't too full get a place away from the crowd.

To discourage others from setting up next to you, carry and park one of those big plastic tricycles by your RV (Hot Wheel?). The noise they make is terrible, especially on asphalt and gravel.

Intelligent folks will shy away.
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The EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY generation has caught up...
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Old 07-21-2021, 04:35 PM   #51
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The parents wanted to sue us because how dare we allow our dog to bite her, not control him, etc.
I saw this and had to comment on owning dogs. There are several threads on dogs and camping but the bottom line is when you get homeowner's insurance they usually ask if you have a dog. If you do your premium goes up and they usually do not even argue when a claim is made on you about your dog. Your insurance company is the one who make the decision and court. They don't bother, they settle. They pay and up your premium again. Dogs bite people and the ones that scare me the worst are the little ankle biters that kids get their faces right up to.



We spend most of the summer in a park that while not adult, suggests that it would be better if you did not rent with kids. I have never seen anyone in the park with kids. Dogs, yes but the rules about dogs running free, and people walking through other spaces are enforced. The owners are not afraid to ask you to leave and not come back if you break the rules. I love that place. No smoking and no smoky camp fires.
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We've been lucky. No noticable uptick in bad actors. We either boondock or use NFS campgrounds...first-come-first-served. The only change I've noticed is that the boom in camping and RV-ing has made getting sites very competitive. But I've never encountered any hostility...just lots of others trolling for "my" site.

There is the occasional open-frame generator nonsense, but otherwise so far so good. Like I said. Lucky.
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Old 07-21-2021, 05:42 PM   #53
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Wife and I are new to TT and modern camping however I did tent camp as a kid. 2 years camping now. We switched sailing to camping do to the wife's serious vertigo, AND the kids and daughter in laws family camp. So far it hasnt been to bad, however we do most of our camping pre & post season most places. I have no problem explaining to a few kids that its not exceptable to walk through our site.
I think my bigger pet pev are the high speed golf cart. One place we go there are so many that it just gets crazy and WAY to fast. Surprised there has not been more people hit. Seems to be "I have to have a bigger, faster, and higher cart than the next person . Some of that is really cool but please keep the speed down. One of the places we go have a speed limit and they WILL tell you to slow down.
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To discourage others from setting up next to you, carry and park one of those big plastic tricycles by your RV (Hot Wheel?). The noise they make is terrible, especially on asphalt and gravel.
This might attract exactly those that are the problem. LOL.
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Yeah, I've noticed. But we keep to ourselves. Rarely do I engage in conversation unless spoken to first. Most of the time, it's just "Hi, Bye" and that's it.
You and i would make for great neighbors !
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First trip this year in April we watched the guy across the road unpack his new camper. Boxes, cardboard, plastic and styrofoam packing from his new TV, appliances, grill, folding chairs, awning mat and more all went directly on his campfire. Yay! Black billowing smoke for hours for all to enjoy! Watched the park staff drive by twice on her golf cart, not one word or even a glance at the inferno. Not sure what part was more dissapointing?
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I totally agree. We were camping in a Provincial campground in northern Manitoba a week ago and we had a constant stream of people using the shortcut through our driveway on our site to access the beach. We asked repeatedly to the children to walk a little further down the road and go down the actual path that was created for this purpose. Eventually the mother showed up and asked us if we had told her children to use a different path. We said yes as they we walking through our site and walking, riding their bikes past our vehicle. She said indignantly that they were using that path all summer and they weren’t going to stop. After that it was adults, children traipsing through our site. Some were even carrying kayaks. There was a total lack of respect, but very little we could do about it.
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I totally agree. We were camping in a Provincial campground in northern Manitoba a week ago and we had a constant stream of people using the shortcut through our driveway on our site to access the beach. We asked repeatedly to the children to walk a little further down the road and go down the actual path that was created for this purpose. Eventually the mother showed up and asked us if we had told her children to use a different path. We said yes as they we walking through our site and walking, riding their bikes past our vehicle. She said indignantly that they were using that path all summer and they weren’t going to stop. After that it was adults, children traipsing through our site. Some were even carrying kayaks. There was a total lack of respect, but very little we could do about it.
We had nearly an identical situation at a KOA near Glacier NP. Shortcut went to a group camp site full of pre-teens. Constant travel through my hookups and by my truck. It was just a matter of time before one of them kicked the sewer hose or tripped on my electric cord. I complained to the park staff and, to their credit, they spoke with the group’s chaperones and it stopped. In the meantime, I went out and bought a roll of yellow “caution” tape to use the next time. If that doesn’t work, maybe I’ll dig up some police tape and draw a chalk outline...
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We had nearly an identical situation at a KOA near Glacier NP. Shortcut went to a group camp site full of pre-teens. Constant travel through my hookups and by my truck. It was just a matter of time before one of them kicked the sewer hose or tripped on my electric cord. I complained to the park staff and, to their credit, they spoke with the group’s chaperones and it stopped. In the meantime, I went out and bought a roll of yellow “caution” tape to use the next time. If that doesn’t work, maybe I’ll dig up some police tape and draw a chalk outline...
Don't forget to add a little fake blood to the "crime scene".
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