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View Poll Results: Do you travel with the frig on?
Yes I do travel with the frig on. 382 57.53%
No I do not travel with the frig on. 81 12.20%
I travel with frig on but stop to turn off propane at tunnels 31 4.67%
I travel with frig on but turn off propane while fueling 51 7.68%
I travel with frig on and never turn off propane. 161 24.25%
I`m new at this so I`m on the fence 41 6.17%
Do you travel with your fridge on using AC/Inverter or generator?. 15 2.26%
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:40 PM   #31
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How do you know what the cause is we had only went about 10 miles stopped to get a water bottle thought I would check it and the lights on the fridge was blinking which on my unit means its not on and after so many seconds it would try again up to 3 times then it would have to be turned off and them back on which it starts to work till we take off again. Any suggestions?
Make sure you are bleeding your propane lines before trying to run your fridge on propane. A small air bubble could be keeping your fridge from lighting on propane or going out. You can bleed you lines by lighting the stove and letting it run for 30 seconds.
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Old 09-06-2013, 03:44 PM   #32
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From the VDOT website pertaining to propane tanks and the Hampton Roads tunnel:

"Hazardous Materials

Before motor homes can go through tunnels, they must stop to have propane tanks checked."


http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/hr...ult.asp#hazmat

And they have flagged down RV`s that fail to stop to be inspected.
Yep similar to what is on Washington State Ferries. If I saw such a sign and they had a place to pull over and handle it I would turn off the fridge and propane.
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Old 09-06-2013, 03:57 PM   #33
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We're plugged in at home, so the fridge is already cold. When you load it up with cold heatsinks(food) it stays cold for a long time without any power. If we know we're driving more than a couple hours, we put frozen water bottles in the fridge and a block of dry ice in the bottom of the freezer. Both easy solution that don't endanger anyone.
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:44 PM   #34
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We're plugged in at home, so the fridge is already cold. When you load it up with cold heatsinks(food) it stays cold for a long time without any power. If we know we're driving more than a couple hours, we put frozen water bottles in the fridge and a block of dry ice in the bottom of the freezer. Both easy solution that don't endanger anyone.
I tried the dry ice on a trip. It is expensive and a hassle. It depends on where you live and the ambient temperature. Our fridge barely kept up in the summer when the temp exceeded 70F and we go east of the mountains and it is 90 - 110 F it is a hopeless case. I had to manage how much warm pop I put into the fridge. These absorption fridges are not the same as your home fridge. We regularly had slushy ice cream etc because the freezer compartment would be between 28 - 32 F.
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Old 09-06-2013, 05:48 PM   #35
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Oh my goodness, I never thought about refueling...
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:34 PM   #36
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Gas stations are safe...
And that IS point...gas stations (and tunnels) ARE safe...it's PEOPLE who aren't...
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:53 PM   #37
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We're plugged in at home, so the fridge is already cold. When you load it up with cold heatsinks(food) it stays cold for a long time without any power. If we know we're driving more than a couple hours, we put frozen water bottles in the fridge and a block of dry ice in the bottom of the freezer. Both easy solution that don't endanger anyone.
As previously mentioned I travel with the fridge on, and here is why.

A couple trips ago I plugged in TT and turned on fridge 2+ days before leaving, it got plenty cold. Night before leaving we loaded fridge and freezer with pre-chilled/pre-frozen items. Fridge was packed tight and freezer fairly full, and left on till minutes befroe leaving the following day. We traveled ~200 mile (~4hrs) in 95-102 heat. Thought the fridge would work like a cooler; but no, I arrived to have warm milk & wilted veg. Frozen chicken started to thaw and ice cream was soft.

I don't buy the idea that these fridges hold temp if off while traveling.

We rarely have to fuel up while towing, never travel through tunnels and rarely cross any of of major bridges. My Fridge now stays on while traveling.
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I must weigh in here while rules are rules I think we need to be realistic. To turn off the refrigerator on a TT requires the following procedure:
Stop at the fuel pump
Set the brake
Walk back to the TT
Unlock the TT
Go inside
Turn off the refrigerator
go to the front of the TT
Uncover the propane tanks
note which tank is in use
turn off the tanks
fuel the TV
go back to the propane tanks and turn on the propane
go back into the TT and turn on the refrigerator
verify it is working (frequently it isn't and the lines need to be purged but turning on the stove)
go back to the front verify that the propane bottles are properly covered
drive off
You have to do all of this while you are blocking at least one pump and with my old rig at least two pumps

Similarly with a tunnel you need to pull over on the side of the road and perform the procedure while you are on the side of the road before and after the tunnel. Many tunnels don't have any place to stop so that is dangerous.
....and the people say....

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Even though once before a moderator deleted some of my posts which contained safety comments about battery boxes (complete with references) because some other member's replies were over the top... it seems that some here are questioning my ability to understand systems, so I'll reply here.

Anyone who has any safety training should know that the fire triangle has three elements. Oxygen, fuel, ignition (heat). If all three are present there is danger, take away any one and the danger is gone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_triangle

We live and drive in about 21% oxygen. So no control over that.

We pull into a fuel station and EXPECT that conditions will be normal, but there may be a fuel spill or other problem which we have no control over. So not much control over that other than avoidance should you observe something as you approach.

Ignition source. Now there's one we can control. We can not smoke cigarettes around fuel stations. We can shut off our engines. We can make certain that our trailer doesn't have an open flame by not running propane appliances.

Some people think it is silly to pull into the station and then go back and shut off their refrigerator. I agree completely. It should be done before you get to the fuel pump area. Nobody can convince me that if they want to operate their propane appliances while on the road and also fuel up safely, that there isn't somewhere in the parking lot to stop, turn off the appliances and THEN proceed to the fuel area. The same applies to tunnels. There is plenty of signage and warning for anyone who really cares about safety to find a safe place to pull off the highway and secure their propane tanks before the tunnel.

A vehicle with an engine running pulling up to a fuel pump presents little risk. The engine fan is moving air across any potential spark making or heat devices which keeps the atmosphere out of an explosive range. In fact, with electronic controls there are fewer spark making devices in a vehicle anymore anyway. So pulling up and driving away do not present a big risk.

As to fuel trucks... last time I recall being around them they are storage and transport trailers. They do not have any open flame appliances associated with them. There are however many regulations and rules specified by the DOT for proper operation of fuel transport. They are not at all the same as pulling up to a fuel station with a travel trailer which has an operating open flame.

Threebutchers has the right idea. It isn't the normal conditions which will get you. It is the abnormal, unexpected which will be the problem. You will not be able to pull your strapped in the back seat, burning grandchildren out of the fire in time once your trailer has sparked some spilled fuel vapors. Most tunnels have no escape.

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Old 09-06-2013, 08:25 PM   #40
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As long as we continue to discuss this issue in a civil manner we will let it run. If things get too hot and attacks get personal, we`ll shut her down as usual. Have fun with the topic and poll guys.
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