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Old 11-09-2013, 06:09 PM   #1
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Escalade towing White Hawk 28DSBH

Looking for members opinions on this.

We have been looking at the White Hawk 28DSBH and while looking at the specs again today, I noticed the tounge weight is a bit more than our x213 was. Which is to be expected.

The 28DSBH hitch weight is listed at 640 lbs

Our Escalade is rated 600 dead weight and 810 with WD hitch.

My question is, do you think that rating is considered part of the 1300 lbs payload rating? We carry fire wood and a few other things in the cargo area in the Escalade. Just wondering if I'm pushing my TV to the max here.

Tow rating is 8100 to 8400 lbs depending on where you get the specs. GWVR is 7500 lbs on the 28DSBH.

What are other members with this trailer towing theirs with???

I never had to worry about any of this with my x213! As much as I'd like to get another x213...the wife won't hear of it. She was getting tired of climbing up into the slide to make the bed. I thought it was the perfect size trailer. She's been in love with these White Hawks though since she first laid eyes on one.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:29 PM   #2
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Yes,
Your tongue weight is part of your payload rating.
The rating for your hitch is what they are referring too as those capacities, but need to be subtracted from your TV payload capacity.

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Escalade towing White Hawk 28DSBH

Thanks Doug. That's kinda what I figured too.
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Keep in mind, the TT tongue weights published by Jayco, seem to be always lower than what your actual hitch weight will be. My actual was/is 260 lbs heavier than the published number.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:05 AM   #5
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Keep in mind, the TT tongue weights published by Jayco, seem to be always lower than what your actual hitch weight will be. My actual was/is 260 lbs heavier than the published number.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:21 AM   #6
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As mentioned, Jayco published weights are based on "unloaded" conditions, and are not even "unloaded" ship weights. To get an accurate unloaded ship weight, look for the yellow sticker on an outside wall....., it will have an accurate unloaded weight to start with.

One member on JOF purchased a 2014 28DSBH and the published UVW was 5,710lbs, but the actual Ship Weight (UVW) on the yellow sticker was 5,943lbs (includes weight of LP tanks when filled).

If you really want to know how much Payload Capacity you have available with your Escalade, take it to your local CAT scale under loaded conditions (full fuel, passengers, cargo, etc.) and weight it. Subtract the CAT scale weight from the specified GVWR noted on your driver's door. The remaining weight is what you have for a TT's "loaded" tongue weight and any other TV weight not accounted for at the CAT scale.

For a TT "loaded" tongue weight estimate for the 28DSBH, figure 13% to 15% of the estimated TT's "loaded" weight (cargo, fluids if you carry them, etc.).

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You'll be close to the limits [maybe even over them] but with proper loading and aggressive efforts to keep contents weight down you should be ok if not making long tows on difficult roads. I'm not advocating a tow that is unsafe so don't get me wrong. We faced the same weight issues last spring when we upgraded to a White Hawk 30DSRE and a 1500 Silverado for a TV. It handled it great and we confirmed our weights were real close to the limits for the 1500. With that said we have already upgraded our TV to a 2500HD duramax. Overkill maybe for the WH but gives me a lot of piece of mind in the long hall.

Get the new TT and then be on the look out for a TV upgrade next year.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:37 PM   #8
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We had a 2004 JayFlight it was supposed to have a 750# - 850# tongue weight it actually had a nearly 1200# Tongue weight with batteries and propane! We did have upgraded batteries 2x GC2 batteries rather than the 2x group 24 batteries.
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