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Old 01-10-2012, 06:55 PM   #51
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They actually make trucks without 4x4?? HaHa... I wouldn't have one without it. Get it. We have used ours in wet conditions backing the tt. Besides, if you ever get a boat the 4 x4 works well on boat launches too.
I just thought about it. We've got six vehicles - 350D, Expedition, tractor and two ATVs - only the 250 is 2wd! And it goes pretty good with studded tires.
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:01 PM   #52
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Still miss my Jeep(s) but..

I have had both but currently drive 2w Drive truck with a limited slip differential aka positive track. The harsh reality is that many 4x4 are no better unless they can lock all wheels in to drive. There are time I miss my 4x4 but with the fuel prices what they are and our near total lack of “wet” here in the south west the 2 wheel drive seems prudent. My thinking is that if you are using 4x4 to get in to a place you better have a winch to get out. When I lived in rural West Virginia the real off roaders had front and rear facing winches.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:03 AM   #53
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In Wyoming we sure need 4WD. Some steep hills getting to the ranch. In the winter I would have to park my 2WD pu about a mile away and walk. On snow packed ice roads it stabilizes the vehicle so you have more control.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:42 AM   #54
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Looks like we all agree, 4x4 it is!
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:53 AM   #55
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Looks like we all agree, 4x4 it is!
For sure. Living in the high country means 4x4 or you don't get home. No need to go off roading to get into trouble. We drop almost a thousand feet just getting to the highway. The Expedition gets the job done in AWD 90% of the time. The remaining ten calls for 4WD. The F350 doesn't have AWD, so I use 4WD more often, but I don't recall ever having to get out and lock the hubs, mainly because I've managed to stay out of the ditches!

Having read and said all this, it's snowing lightly right now and I'm about to take that two-wheeler with studs off to town. There's a 90 degree turn onto the toughest hill coming home, so no run-up. Makes for an adventure!
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I've owned (2) 2WD full length pick ups and (2) 4WD pickups so far and I have to say that even without the 4WD engaged the overall road handling on the 4WD pickups was better in deteriorated conditions like rain and light snow. Just when it starts to get slick. Could be the weight or just the axel setup. Either way it was just less loose in the 4WD trucks.

Currently I have a 4WD and I will never own another 2WD pick up so long as I shall live. Having the ability to engage 4WD at anytime is a security for me that I would be lost without. In our case we use it to get to some camping spots that are impossible to get to without.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:15 PM   #57
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My feeling is, if you buy a 2 wheel drive truck, you just bought half a truck.:lizard: I'm running a marginal (or some would say way too small) of a tow vehicle for the amount of camper I have, I have to back a decent distance to get in the spot plus up a very, very slight grade. I will drop it into 4-low just so the engine & tranny doesn't have to work so hard. I will also drop it into 4-low when backing it in at home because I'm backing it onto gravel that is fairly thick and isn't packed down so it has some good resistance to it. I also used 4-Hi a couple of years back when we were camping on a Halloween weekend. Got ready to pull out and there was a thick frost. Backed up to the camper and hooked up, couldn't pull forward at all because of the frost under the tires. 4-Hi and eased right out. Also had a chance to use it this fall when I followed our GPS instead of my pre-planned route (both wanted me to take a right turn but the GPS's was first and I didn't realize it wasn't the same turn) took us down this really narrow gravel road and there were a couple of hills I had to use 4-wd to get up and felt all 4 tires slipping.

Nope, I won't even turn my head to look at a truck that isn't 4x4.
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Has anybody thought about a locking differential? I have towed with my 96 for 13 years and have never been stuck with the sure grip. In fact i have pushed snow bumper high. I know some campground owners that buy parts from us. They had problems this past year with gettin stuck in every case they were where they told them not to go. IMHO if your in a campground and need 4wd to get around your some wher you shouldn't be.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:23 PM   #59
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Have owned both 4x4s and 2x4s over the years. I think the question is resolved by considering both application and the location.

Tire selection is worth noting.

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Old 01-11-2012, 06:34 PM   #60
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I wouldn't buy a 2WD without a good reason, like I got this 250 from my cousin, who practically gave it to me. It was 16 years old when I got it, had about 88k on it. He'd used it to pull and RV around the country for a couple years, then had a bad accident in his car and the truck basically sat in his kid's driveway since then. His two boys race stock cars, so they kept it moving often enough that it stayed in good shape. I use it primarily to save wear and tear on our other vehicles, so in ten years it's only gotten another 30k on it. That 6.9 diesel is sure going to outlast the body.
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