Gas

[Poppyof5]

So true and if you ask the people that voted for that governor and representatives in California will tell you how great California is and they have a balanced budget. But they hate it when you point out that also have the highest income tax gas tax gas prices homes are going up oh and let’s not forget that bullet train to nowhere that is over budget by millions and will never get to where they told everyone when they put it on the ballot.

Sorry I will get off my box now

[Hollander Mutthaulers]

We're long-haulers - average 10,000 - 12,000 miles per year in two or three extended trips. We will be heading to family in Colorado as usual, but perhaps only once this year. We can afford it for now, but have to consider other factors. We also fly to Denver, but Southwest has to pay more for fuel as well; flying with high prices and fewer flights is looking less and less feasible.

[Johnynorthland]

IMO, I think all of us that have been RVing for the past 6-7 years are use to “bumps” in the road. To me high gas prices just seem to be another thing to deal with. As for others who are new to the game and have been shocked by the MPG to begin with, may cause a few changes in their travel plans! But for the rest of us, we might try and be more frugal and mindful of burning fuel.

[CAG]

But for the rest of us, we might try and be more frugal and mindful of burning fuel.

That statement and RVing is an oxymoron.

[Johnynorthland]

Originally Posted by CAG

That statement and RVing is an oxymoron.

Lol!, I guess so! But hey, it looks good on paper!

[spark of insanity]

Good luck with Fort Wilderness. We held off and lost a week prior to Halloween with them. Ended up with a week at the end of September. So we are going to celebrate their 50th and Halloween and our daughters 25th birthday all that week. And as for gas prices? I am still headed to Maine for the summer. I did get a seasonal up there. Now I would like to work PT but trying to figure out if I want to drive for Acadia. Decisions decisions. I am hoping gas prices go back to what they were. But with that creepy in office I highly doubt it. Happy trails.

[ShotgunZ71]

I agree with most sentiments up here about fuel prices. Sure, none of want to pay more for fuel at anytime, let alone a drastic increase in such a short amount of time. The way I look it at, if I can afford the camper and the truck to pull it, the fuel cost is irrelevant. If finances get to a point where it is an issue, the camper is one of the first things to go, like any other non-necessity.

[Bill Johnson]

Look up a oil-gas price chart and compare the price of oil to the price of gas. It should be less than 3 dollars a gallon. The gas companies are the ones controlling the prices they go high and drop a few cents a week later. Last week Wisconsin was 70 cents less than Illinois and now they are the same price, how can there be a 70 cent difference one week the same a week later?

[Johnynorthland]

Originally Posted by Bill Johnson

Look up a oil-gas price chart and compare the price of oil to the price of gas. It should be less than 3 dollars a gallon. The gas companies are the ones controlling the prices they go high and drop a few cents a week later. Last week Wisconsin was 70 cents less than Illinois and now they are the same price, how can there be a 70 cent difference one week the same a week later?

It’s all part of the plan! Twisting our arms to go electric bla bla bla!

[gypsmjim]

Originally Posted by ShotgunZ71

If finances get to a point where it is an issue, the camper is one of the first things to go, like any other non-necessity.

Cruises, Winter vacations to Florida, going to the movies, cable TV, and steak 3 times a week are non-necessities. Running the AC in the house in the Summer is an unneeded luxury.

My Boat and my RV, and walking in the woods with nature around our campsite are MORE than necessary. They are what preserves our sanity.

[ShotgunZ71]

Originally Posted by gypsmjim

Cruises, Winter vacations to Florida, going to the movies, cable TV, and steak 3 times a week are non-necessities. Running the AC in the house in the Summer is an unneeded luxury.

My Boat and my RV, and walking in the woods with nature around our campsite are MORE than necessary. They are what preserves our sanity.

If your eating steak 3 times a week, cholesterol medicine is in your finances, too! You can cook those when downsizing to a kayak and tent...gotta keep the A/C going in the house! We're not Neanderthals!

[CAG]

Running the AC in the house in the Summer is an unneeded luxury.

You don't live in Phoenix do you?

[rodpod]

Originally Posted by Jacjayco

The gas prices started to come dowm yesterday . Crude oil traded at $100. Prices in my area dropped 10 cents per gallon. Hopefully the beginning of a trend?

If only it were so. The price of west Texas and Brent crude just jumped 20% and the prices in my area went up in lock step. This is going to be the norm for the foreseeable future. If you don't want to pay $5+ per gal for fuel you'll need to curtail your RV trips. This situation will only get worse, so buckle up. The demand destruction most people expected when gas goes over $4 is not happening as it did in the past. In fact, supplies of gasoline around the world are just now becoming constrained. Be prepared for gas and diesel shortages, and lines at the gas stations that are still open. I hope I am wrong but i firmly believe we'll be sitting in gas lines before the end of April. Fill up you rig now, you may need it as a tanker for your cars.

[CAG]

Originally Posted by Bill Johnson

Look up a oil-gas price chart and compare the price of oil to the price of gas. It should be less than 3 dollars a gallon. The gas companies are the ones controlling the prices they go high and drop a few cents a week later. Last week Wisconsin was 70 cents less than Illinois and now they are the same price, how can there be a 70 cent difference one week the same a week later?

It depends upon where the supply is coming from. You see $115 a barrel. That is NOT the price of every barrel of oil. That is the market "Sweet Crude". That only comes from certain fields. There is more to it than, get a lease, drill a well, pump the oil, sell the oil, pocket the money.



The price at the pump is set by the gas station, NOT the oil company. Their supply can be priced very high one week, and lower the next. Depends upon there the oil came from and what grade it was when refined. So without going into a whole sheet of oil production understand it is involved, very involved and oil coming from other countries does not have the environmental requirements when drilled and pumped that the US does. Higher prices!

[gypsmjim]

Originally Posted by ShotgunZ71

t...gotta keep the A/C going in the house! We're not Neanderthals!

Originally Posted by CAG

You don't live in Phoenix do you?

I grew up in in the 1950's in an old inner city house that did not even have central heat. We had a oil burning space heater centrally located. We didn't have a phone line to the house either. Dad walked to work. We didn't have a lot of money, but we all had a roof, clothes and ample food.

When we moved to the suburbs we got more necessities. But it also came with a mortgage, car payments, etc.

When I graduated from the University we moved to an affluent neighborhood got ALL the good stuff.

But looking back at life, all the things we pay dearly for today maybe aren't really necessary. We'll continue living the good life as along as the money is there. But if we had to, we could comfortably live without them.

The other back-looking revelation is that the nicest people we ever met were in a campground, and THAT'S WHY the RV will be the LAST to go, not the first.

Now, PHX is probably the last place i would ever visit, much less live there, but I think AC there is just fine because a furnace in the Winter would not be needed. (I used to do outdoor engineering work in PHX, but we always worked at night.....LOL)

[CAG]

Now, PHX is probably the last place i would ever visit, much less live there, but I think AC there is just fine because a furnace in the Winter would not be needed. (I used to do outdoor engineering work in PHX, but we always worked at night.....LOL)

If you worked here you visited and lived here right? When nighttime summer temps are 90F. If you lived here you would know that we see nights in the winter of 25F and heat is needed so you don't know Phoenix or this desert. You are probably the only one who wouldn't move here since most of California along with the upper midwest is moving here. Must be something here that brings them besides the warmth.

[CAG]

Originally Posted by Hollander Mutthaulers

We're long-haulers - average 10,000 - 12,000 miles per year in two or three extended trips. We will be heading to family in Colorado as usual, but perhaps only once this year. We can afford it for now, but have to consider other factors. We also fly to Denver, but Southwest has to pay more for fuel as well; flying with high prices and fewer flights is looking less and less feasible.

Just a note on gas prices and real long hauling. My nephew is an over the road trucker. He is paying $1500 a tank to fill diesel. That is two or three times a week. The bottom line for all of this is, we can pay for our fun trips but our food and supplies are going to cost a bundle in the next few months. These guys cannot keep eating the cost of bringing those supplies to the stores.

This entire problem is not caused by Putin or the Arabs. It is cause by poor administration management from the day it took office (how many executive orders were signed stopping ongoing production). OK, I am probably going to shut down another thread but some of this stuff needs to be said if it is ongoing conversation.

[Midnightmoon]

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