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Old 01-07-2014, 08:12 AM   #1
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Hauling Firewood

I've looked in the forums but couldn't find a good answer so here is the question.

TT is 4700 # dry, We use water from the parks so fresh water tank will be empty. I will give myself 1000# leeway on supplies, etc.

Yukon is rated at around 7500# capacity so I should be under by around 2000#. Of course we have WDH and Sway bars..

95% of travel is flat roads and within 100 miles of the homestead...

We always have a tough time finding firewood and usually bring our own. Can't put any in the SUV as the back is the designated dog area. I figured I could evenly distribute the weight between the front and back outside storage areas (along with our regular gear). I would also put the wood into storage bins that are locked down as to not have any major shifting of the load..

Opinions, thoughts, suggestions???

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Old 01-07-2014, 09:27 AM   #2
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snip......... Opinions, thoughts, suggestions??? Thanks
IMO it's doable, but I would confirm your loaded weights at a CAT scale........., thus avoiding the weight distribution guess work. The CAT scale data will also confirm your WDH sizing/adjustments as well based on your particular loading habits.

CAT scale how-to: https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...igh-Your-tt-tv

Just thinking out loud .......,

The 2013 264BH has a GVWR of 6,500lbs, so I will assume your stated 4,700lbs DRY is the ship weight from the yellow sticker, since the published UVW is 4,325lbs. Your loaded TT weight would be 5,700lbs (using your 1,000lb cargo figure), thus a recommended tongue weight of 741lbs to 855lbs (13% to15%). Worst case scenario loaded at GVWR 6,500lbs, tongue weight recommendation would be 845lbs to 975lbs. Again, the CAT scale will confirm your load weight conditions.

Also, something TV manufactures don't tell us.., your TV's actual Tow Rating will be less then 7,500lbs: https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...uot-Tow-Rating

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Good numbers, calculations and advice Bob.. Thanks... As a new TT owner I am trying to take everything in and trying to be as safe as possible with everything.

It seems like I will be within tolerances on TT weight, tongue weight, etc.. I'm pretty much a "get in the right hand lane and drive at or below speed limit with about 1 mile between me and the guy out front" person. I just don't want to do anything that would or could put my family in danger. We have a weight station about 15 miles away from here so that is a doable solution. I may just "load er up" before our first trip out and head to the scales since they are so close.
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I agree, a visit to the the CAT scale will provide an added level of towing confidence..., especially when towing in less then ideal conditions (wind, rain, etc.).

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I am not going to talk about weight. I am going to talk about transporting firewood. DONT DO IT!!!! Most areas now have laws against transporting firewood. This has become a major way that destructive pests move from one area to another. PLEASE buy your wood locally or use a propane fire pit. I have seen too many forests killed by induced species.
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Assuming you aren't talking about a weeks supply of firewood, the issue is really not an issue at all. Remember that seasoned wood is lighter than green and burns a whole lot better. Spread it out and put it where ever it fits. Not going to have a problem with a short tow like you are describing. Keep in mind that most states have restrictions on transporting firewood from out of state or more than 25 miles in some places because of various insect infestations. I tend to pack enough firewood for a couple of good fires so space and weight are not an issue. As for the import restrictions, its interesting that most rules say don't bring it BUT if you do, burn it all before you leave.

Another suggestion: If you're going to a site for a couple of weeks, I have on occasion sought out a source for fireword by the pickup load. Check the boards at gas and convience stores near the CG. In most areas there are people who sell firewood to homeowners and seasonal cabins. A rick can usually been had for less than $50 and have it delivered right to your site. You can make a lot of friends quick when that truck pulls up and unloads more wood than the CG host has for sale. I like to scrounge firewood as we drive the backroads of N forest areas etc, but there is something to be said for a delivery of split, seasoned wood right to your site for next to nothing compared to buying it by the bundle.

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Here in Texas we do not have any laws or regulations about transporting our own firewood, so that isn't an issue. We are veteran tent and popup campers so no issues there as well. We usually only go out 2 - 3 days at a time. We always leave any leftover wood at the site for the next visitors to have. Texas state parks do not allow for any "gathering" of park wood so we have to bring our own in. You are right in the fact that there are local suppliers and sometimes even the park stores sell ricks. We have had to purchase when we ran out.. Biggest % of time we head out Friday after kids get out of school, etc. by the time we get to camp and setup, etc. It is dark and after-hours for most places that sell wood so I make sure and at least have enough for that nights fire and possibly the next morning as well.

We ALWAYS bring a bag of self lighting charcoal with us. Pour about 1/4 bag in fire ring, place seasoned wood on top and you never have a problem getting a fire going.. Never....

I kinda figured that there wouldn't be a huge problem with loading firewood in the trailer, but then I have been surprised already about other things and I don't even pick my TT up until the 11th of January. Thank heavens I am an Amazon Prime member.. UPS drivers are starting to call me by name...
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Yes the transporting firewood laws vary by state, even by county.
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I am not going to talk about weight. I am going to talk about transporting firewood. DONT DO IT!!!! Most areas now have laws against transporting firewood. This has become a major way that destructive pests move from one area to another. PLEASE buy your wood locally or use a propane fire pit. I have seen too many forests killed by induced species.
Illegal in Indiana due to the Emerald Ash borer, among others.
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It's not legal in most of the state parks in NC but most people do bring fire wood as there seems to be zero enforcement of the law. What I have noticed is that for those that purchase fire wood and then transport it, they are spending more on fire wood than those that purchase it at the park. If you cut your own wood then you might save but hauling it any distance will increase it's cost beyond any possible savings. Fill your truck with wood and drive it a week back and forth to work and see if I am wrong here.
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