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Old 03-12-2012, 04:18 PM   #11
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We as a so called civil society shouldnt have to put up with stuff like this.No harm in an alcholholic beverage but we should have some respect for others.Sometimes I feal as though my value system went away with the dinasors
I love my wine, Malibu rum and Bailey's & coffee. But only in moderation. And yes, I believe that my values are not consistent with today's society either. This weekend was a great example to my young boys about alcohol and being inconsiderate to others.

We always get kuddos from others when they watch my boys open doors for me and lots of other women and always ask to help where they can. Camping is a great way to learn to help before playing. Our values are odd in today's world but I wouldn't have it any other way. Respect, honor, discipline and diligence are all traits we strive for. And this will be carried out by my young sons, too. We may be the only ones but that doesn't change us.

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Old 03-12-2012, 04:31 PM   #12
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Amen sister
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:07 PM   #13
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It really is sad when a family cannot enjoy a camping trip. We have had a similar experience and it is NOT fun. We now think that with us being in a trailer and most teens in tents we may be better off in campgrounds that have the different areas quite separated which fortunately we have at our local national park here in southern Manitoba.
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Sorry you had such a horrible experience and I do believe it is an isolated incident. Let us know how your next trip out fares.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:28 PM   #15
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Sorry you had such a rough time. Nowadays it seems that if you would try to do somethings about the problem that it would turn around and you would be the ones that get talked to. But I will say that the spot you had looked to be real nice. Hope that you haved better luck next time. Ernie
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Old 03-13-2012, 04:47 PM   #16
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In 60 years of camping only had it happen twice

Both times in more recent times. In both instaces going over and calmy taking to the individuals involved broght things down to a more reasoable level. The fact that I was leaning on a long handled Axe and I am 6'2" and 300+ Lbs did not infact hurt my argment that it was quit rude. The second instace I was accomined by a fishing budy of mine who is taller than me and does not embrase my peacefull ways. In both case we enjoyed peace and order.

I was taught as a child that when camping everyone shoudl have a sholvel and an axe. As I gew older I came to understand why. :hihi:
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:22 PM   #17
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I love all you guys and gals. You are so supportive and wonderful. I feel hugged. I was fighting the urge to stay home for awhile but I am not going to let them win.

On the 23rd I have already reserved two spots at the campground at Lk Pleasant for my home educating moms' group to have a weekend of camping and no makeup. I think this will help me get over this issue.

We did just get an axe and I need to get a gun to carry on my hip. Used to have a nice Walther and I need to get a nice S&W with a laser sight. My husband is such an amazingly calm and nice guy. I can't even get him to get mad at ME let alone someone else. So I'm going to have to be creative. My Labradoodle won't help me, either. I might have to adopt a pitbull.

I just didn't think that the whole, "Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?" or "You better quit talking like that before I was your mouth out with soap" would work and I didn't even know how to relate to these kids. I guess I better prepare because I really would love to go back to Lake Pleasant someday. It's just so stinkin' convenient!

Big hugs to all of you and many thanks!

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It really is sad when a family cannot enjoy a camping trip. We have had a similar experience and it is NOT fun. We now think that with us being in a trailer and most teens in tents we may be better off in campgrounds that have the different areas quite separated which fortunately we have at our local national park here in southern Manitoba.
It is sad. But how lovely that you have a national park nearby. We have lots of parks around here for camping, too. We can't let the turkeys get us down!

Warmly, Kim
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Kim I am really sorry to hear about your experience. We have thought many times since we got the TT to go to Lake Pleasant along with our boat. It has been several years since we have camped there, we belonged to a camping group and had our PUP then. We usually stayed at Desert Tortoise. We usually stayed in the dry camping area and tried to get the site at the top of the hill. There were some pretty loud groups around the lake but the campground wasn't as bad but the noise still echoed around the lake. The campgrounds were monitored by the Sheriff's Dept. We have gone there during the day for boating but that has been it.

We did like to go to Lake Pleasant and camp when the stargazers are there. They have an educational group that comes into the park along to other Maricopa County Parks. It is a great thing to do with your children also. It is a free program only park entrance fee applies. My DD loves it.

Here is their flyer in case you are interested in their schedule.

http://www.stargazingforeveryone.com...rams-Flyer.pdf

Which campground did you make reservations at?

It is frustrating when we have such a gem nearby. Take care.

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PhxKim,
You may have been joking about taking the gun to Lake Pleasant but let me warn you that there are signs posted stating that no firearms are allowed in the park. Do what you wish and be careful. On another note...Ben Avery shooting range has some campspots. Take your sons there and teach them how to shoot rifles, pistols, shotguns and even archery. If you're into that kind of thing. It isn't boondocking but it could be fun.
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