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Old 10-06-2015, 08:38 PM   #21
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I stand hat in hand, having already been properly flogged for weights.
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Old 10-06-2015, 09:35 PM   #22
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Ok... If you ever see a blue Dodge Ram pickup pulling a 264 bh somewhere around the north Texas area don't wave. It's not me.
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Old 10-06-2015, 09:52 PM   #23
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HAHA. I have the opposite problem you do. Plenty of motor (and brakes too), just need a little more wheel base, and suspension. Really, my set up actually pulls well. My only problem is that little sticker in the door jam.
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Actually, it can. 80% of braking is done with the FRONT wheels. With a smaller/lighter engine there is less weight on the front tires and therefore less potential friction with the ground to stop the rig.
Then how is Ford getting away with stuffing a 2.7 Ecoboost into a regular cab shortbox truck and saying it can pull 7600#? I bet that truck weighs 500# less than the Ram in question!

Also the tow rating is based on the package. The ram gets less towing capacity because of the engine and transmission. The brakes, rear end and suspension are the same size wether it has the 3.7 v6 or the 5.7 Hemi.

In reality, we all know that trailer can't be towed with less than a 1 ton diesel!
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Old 10-07-2015, 07:39 AM   #25
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Braking would be my biggest worry.

You could eliminate a lot of weight on that short a trip by taking a second vehicle with a lot of passenger and supplies.

I used to tow a small popup with a VW Bug for trips within my home state every year and we always had a good time. The VW however was not to happy about it. Only mod was oversized rear tires.
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Old 10-07-2015, 09:01 AM   #26
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Then how is Ford getting away with stuffing a 2.7 Ecoboost into a regular cab shortbox truck and saying it can pull 7600#? I bet that truck weighs 500# less than the Ram in question!

Also the tow rating is based on the package. The ram gets less towing capacity because of the engine and transmission. The brakes, rear end and suspension are the same size wether it has the 3.7 v6 or the 5.7 Hemi.

In reality, we all know that trailer can't be towed with less than a 1 ton diesel!
My statement should have begun with the phrase "All other things being equal..."

And I totally agree that a Full Ton class truck with 6 to 8 liters of turbocharged Diesel goodness is the way to tow.

However, those of us in the Cheap Seats can only dream.
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So you think the brakes that Dodge specs out for a vehicle that can tow 3450 are the same brakes that Dodge would put on a vehicle that is spec'd to tow 9000?

Regardless, you'll run into legal problems if you are involved in an accident. You may even have issues with your insurance company.
My truck (Ram also) comes with 2 different engine packages, two different transmissions and three different axle ratios. All the same suspension and brakes, and every configuration has a different towing capacity so yes, Ram will put the same brakes on a truck with a 16,000 pound towing capacity or a 29,000 pound towing capacity. It's too expensive and too confusing to make different calipers and braking components for each tow rating.

I also challenge anyone to bring forth a lawsuit of a non professional driver being charged with driving while overloaded. I've been a part of this discussion for years. Not one case has ever been brought forth. Commercial drivers on the other hand are very closely regulated and open for lawsuits for being 1 pound over. Lawyers love those guys.
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My truck (Ram also) comes with 2 different engine packages, two different transmissions and three different axle ratios. All the same suspension and brakes, and every configuration has a different towing capacity so yes, Ram will put the same brakes on a truck with a 16,000 pound towing capacity or a 29,000 pound towing capacity. It's too expensive and too confusing to make different calipers and braking components for each tow rating.

I also challenge anyone to bring forth a lawsuit of a non professional driver being charged with driving while overloaded. I've been a part of this discussion for years. Not one case has ever been brought forth. Commercial drivers on the other hand are very closely regulated and open for lawsuits for being 1 pound over. Lawyers love those guys.
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I think we act like lawyers way to much or watch to much TV. Internet forums are full of warnings concerning yellow stickers but why not peal the thing off the truck, it's your truck. Most states have laws about not removing VIN numbers and any DOT information has to stay but the rest of it is much like the stickers you find on a new mattress or pillow.
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Ok all. Here's proof... I'm all hitched up for the weekend coming up.. Have a 3 day planned...

NO DODGE TRUCK WITH A V-6
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Tex1961 go for it. Take the 'Bull' by the horns. I would do the same thing. I believe in a challenge. Not in "Doomsday"!
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